# Why have conservatives left this message board?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [April 14, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016 "2025-04-14T01:14:37Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-conservatives-left-this-message-board/1017016/270 "2025-04-21T06:53:48Z")

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John Mace, a life-long atheist, didn’t perceive things that way. This agnostic finds the claim unexceptional though. (Which demonstrates my blind-spot point: I had at first forgotten about atheism.)

> **Summary**
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> John Mace and I had a long discussion in FQ about whether an alleged quote by Bush the Elder about atheists was accurate.
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> One online discussion:  
> [George H.W. Bush and the Atheists - SourceWatch](https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/George_H.W._Bush_and_the_Atheists)
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> Mace essentially thought the reporter was lying or misremembering IIRC. I didn’t find the alleged quote extraordinary: “No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.”
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> And here’s the 2005 thread. Twenty years old!  
> [George H W Bush and atheists - #41 by Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-h-w-bush-and-atheists/323233/41)

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