# Why Have the Twin Towers Not Been Rebuilt?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 11, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448 "2010-09-11T22:36:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/1 "2010-09-11T22:36:41Z")

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What is the hold-up on rebuilding the World Trade Center and other buildings that were destroyed 9 years ago today?

It’s not a rhetorical question and it’s one I don’t have much of an answer too- more of a GQ really but I’m putting it here since there will probably be many different opinions.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/2 "2010-09-11T22:43:03Z")

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Long story short (from past reading) is everyone and their mother feels they have a say in what goes there. The citizens, the politicians, the architects, the owners and so on.

As a result the bickering is ceaseless and nothing happens.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/3 "2010-09-11T23:12:38Z")

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Because it’s been nine years, and no-one knows how to react yet.

Personally, I think they should have started rebuilding them exactly as they were before as soon as the dust settled.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/4 "2010-09-11T23:15:52Z")

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I understand there also isn’t nearly as much demand for New York office space as during the seventies, so even if one or more megatowers were built on the spot, it would hard to profitably lease them.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/5 "2010-09-11T23:20:02Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Long story short (from past reading) is everyone and their mother feels they have a say in what goes there. The citizens, the politicians, the architects, the owners and so on.
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> As a result the bickering is ceaseless and nothing happens.

This. Except thinks have been going for a little while now. Getting anyone to agree and move forward was the issue. Now that the constructions finally started things are expected to move at a similar rate to any other skyscraper project.

> **[The World Trade Center](https://www.explorewtc.com/en/local.html)**
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> Welcome to the World Trade Center, home to the Oculus, the 9/11 Memorial & Museum, Liberty Park, and iconic office towers, including One World Trade Center, Three World Trade Center, and Four World Trade Center.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/6 "2010-09-11T23:21:26Z")

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According to Wikipedia, [One World Trade Center](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center) was supposed to top out of the end of 2011, but due to budget problems it’s being pushed back to mid 2013 or the end of 2013

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**Author:** ![Mozart1220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Mozart1220](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mozart1220)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/7 "2010-09-11T23:27:57Z")

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The WTC was a “white elephant” from the start. Ever notice that the ONLY three buildings to fall were all owned by the same guy, who had them grossly overinsured? It’s not like he could have an “accidental” fire right? Heck, building 7 wasn’t even that badly damaged.

Think about it.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/8 "2010-09-11T23:29:38Z")

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Rachel Maddow did a short story on the construction a little while ago during her geek week. here is that. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSzmkAbgI8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSzmkAbgI8)

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/9 "2010-09-11T23:38:09Z")

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I suspect the global economic downturn has something to do with it.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/10 "2010-09-11T23:43:44Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I understand there also isn’t nearly as much demand for New York office space as during the seventies, so even if one or more megatowers were built on the spot, it would hard to profitably lease them.

That is the answer. The towers would have been rebuilt already if profit was in it.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/11 "2010-09-11T23:54:00Z")

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> [@Mozart1220](#):
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> The WTC was a “white elephant” from the start. Ever notice that the ONLY three buildings to fall were all owned by the same guy, who had them grossly overinsured? It’s not like he could have an “accidental” fire right? Heck, building 7 wasn’t even that badly damaged.
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> Think about it.

:rolleyes:

We already thought about it, Building 7 was heavily damaged.

[http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm](http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm)

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/12 "2010-09-12T00:10:56Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Personally, I think they should have started rebuilding them exactly as they were before as soon as the dust settled.

I kind of think the design was somewhat flawed. Granted, the aircraft that hit the Towers were significantly larger, it is worth noting that the conventionally built Empire State Building was almost unharmed by an WWII bomber running into it.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/13 "2010-09-12T00:16:11Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> > [@Alessan](#):
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> > Personally, I think they should have started rebuilding them exactly as they were before as soon as the dust settled.
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> I kind of think the design was somewhat flawed. Granted, the aircraft that hit the Towers were significantly larger, it is worth noting that the conventionally built Empire State Building was almost unharmed by an WWII bomber running into it.

We’ve had multiple threads discussing the design of the world trade centers. The airplane hitting the EST and the jets hitting the WTCs are in very few ways similar.

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**Author:** ![Otara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Otara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otara)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/14 "2010-09-12T00:24:57Z")

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B25 Mitchell 15,200 kg max takeoff weight.

Boeing 767ER 179,000kg max takeoff weight.

Wee bit of difference in size. The Boeing was flying a tad faster as well, what with it being a jet and all.

Otara

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/15 "2010-09-12T00:43:11Z")

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> [@Otara](#):
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> B25 Mitchell 15,200 kg max takeoff weight.
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> Boeing 767ER 179,000kg max takeoff weight.
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> Wee bit of difference in size. The Boeing was flying a tad faster as well, what with it being a jet and all.
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> Otara

Times two, since there were two jets that hit the towers.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/16 "2010-09-12T01:38:57Z")

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> [@Mozart1220](#):
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> The WTC was a “white elephant” from the start. Ever notice that the ONLY three buildings to fall were all owned by the same guy, who had them grossly overinsured? It’s not like he could have an “accidental” fire right? Heck, building 7 wasn’t even that badly damaged.
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> Think about it.

Yep, and Obama was born in Kenya also.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/17 "2010-09-12T02:23:57Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> > [@Mozart1220](#):
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> > The WTC was a “white elephant” from the start. Ever notice that the ONLY three buildings to fall were all owned by the same guy, who had them grossly overinsured? It’s not like he could have an “accidental” fire right? Heck, building 7 wasn’t even that badly damaged.
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> > Think about it.
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> :rolleyes:
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> We already thought about it, Building 7 was heavily damaged.
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> [http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm](http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm)

And the WTC was hardly a 'White Elephant".

> **[911myths](https://web.archive.org/web/20191216033221/http://www.911myths.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)**

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/18 "2010-09-12T02:57:14Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Because it’s been nine years, and no-one knows how to react yet.
> 
> Personally, I think they should have started rebuilding them exactly as they were before as soon as the dust settled.

Yes!

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**Author:** ![Mozart1220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Mozart1220](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mozart1220)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/19 "2010-09-12T03:12:25Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> > [@GIGObuster](#):
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> > :rolleyes:
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> > We already thought about it, Building 7 was heavily damaged.
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> > [http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm](http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm)
> 
> And the WTC was hardly a 'White Elephant".
> 
> [911myths](http://911myths.com/html/losing_money_at_the_wtc_.html)

OK, you found something on the internet, but not much on WHO wrote all this.

It didn’t even look as credible as Popular Mechanics.

Like, HOW did they get those cables all hooked up while all the chaos was going on around them?

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-have-the-twin-towers-not-been-rebuilt/553448/20 "2010-09-12T03:47:00Z")

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Aside from the crazy’s dude’s nonsense, tghe short version is that not many people actually wanted the ugly things put back. They were bland, unpleasant, and uninteresting. They were notable for their size and twin placement, but other than that… not a particularly beloved landmark. It was something New Yorkers apparently loved more for the remebrance value after they fell than were particualrly wanted during their lifetime.

Thus, nobody really wanted to just rebuild them. New propsoals were floated imediately. I suppose they could have done much worse than the current idea, though it’s not really a great plan either.

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