None. Because if they are proven right, they aren’t called conspiracy theories.
Check out the Watergate biz. There was a conspiracy there. It’s pretty complicated, but, actually, there was more than a conspiray, there were several conspiracies.
Look at the Lincoln assassination.
Teapot dome scandal.
During Clinton’s reign, some group/groups was/were arrested for trying to assassinate him with something similar to cigarette lighter-guns!
Wasn’t there some conspiracy that Reagan just missed being impeached over? (Can’t remember.)
The Bay of Pigs thing was a huge, huge, huge conspiracy, that even the POTUS was in on. Wild.
The U2 coverup was a conspiracy.
The Rosenberg case (The Implosion Conspiracy was the name of a book about it.)
There are ten thousand jillion conspiracies, going from now to time immemorial that have been proven. And, you haven’t defined ‘wild’ properly in this context. You interpolated the word, unfairly. What you mean is, ‘name one that has been called a conspiracy theory for so long, that has so many detractors on both sides, that has been proven to the satisfaction of all, and was still called a wild conspiracy theory’ I believe.
I think that was relatively clear actually. Nobody doubts the existence of conspiracies nor was it up for debate. It’s beyond dispute that groups of people plan things.
But for clarification, "Name something that was once considered a wild, a word here used in the sense of 'highly improbable and, perhaps… dare I say it
[Cleavon Little in BLAZING SADDLES]Dare! Dare![/Cleavon Little in BLAZING SADDLES]
…laughable or ludicrous or the rantings of fanatics- that has ever been proven factual and thus evolved from conspiracy theory to accepted historical truth.
For example, to use your example, nobody doubts there was a Lincoln Conspiracy. It was amazingly obvious within minutes of the president’s death. It would become wild, but the initial knowledge of the conspiracy was very lucid and strangely not nearly as reactionary or as wild as it would become, all due to the sequence of events and what happened immediately on their heels.
Event 1: Abraham Lincoln was shot through the back of the head in the Presidential Box at Ford’s Theatre
Event: Immediately after Event 1, Major Basil Rathbone is cut repeatedly with a large knife by a man who looks like John Wilkes Booth
Event 3: Immediately after Event 2: A man jumps from the President’s box, catches his spur in the flag, and falls clumsily to the floor of the theater where he rights himself, shouts something in a dramatic voice (though there is much disagreement to what that was- Sic semper tyrannis is what is most accepted but there are variants), and flees the stage quickly but with a pronounced limp. Some attendees were no doubt hopelessly confused by the incident. Others, such as those who had seen the play before and knew that it had been rewritten several times during its hundreds of performances, perhaps looked in their programs to see who was playing “Bloody Man Who Falls Screaming From the Sky” in their programs and perhaps, if they’d seen more than a few plays at Ford’s or other venues, thinking to themselves or saying aloud “That’s that guy who was in that Shakespeare play with what’s his name… you know, he was involved with that woman who was at the Capitol function…”. The more contemplative perhaps analyze for a moment "how does a screaming guy falling from the sky into a drawing room and yelling something indecipherable before limping off stage right advance the plot or enhance the humor of a ‘British snobs versus American slob’ farce, perhaps deriding the arthousiness of it when the show was going along just fine in the original very light and realist if comedic genre it started in, a few perhaps figuring “Well, it’s experimental” or “I’ll suspend disbelief until we see where this goes”. At least a good sized minority of the play goers however say “Hey, that was a special cameo by John Wilkes Booth. Not to namedrop, but I’ve seen him perform before!”
Event 4: Immediately after Event 3 numerous actors and backstage personnel at Ford’s Theatre recognize John Wilkes Booth, a man they know personally and or professionally, running backstage through the rear exit of the theater.
Events 1-4 happen amazingly fast. People Booth literally bumps into backstage still have no idea what’s happened and are trying to sort out “laughter- gunshot- screams- guy breaks the fourth wall and the invisible ceiling and yells something indecipherable that may or may not have been Latin- John Wilkes Booth runs through backstage limping and stained with blood- I’m guessing all of these things are connected but I wonder how”. Outside of the Presidential Box few know what has happened, but there is a general discomfort thing happening as people know something bad has probably happened. Some may think this is some sort of obnoxious prank of the sort known to happen in theater, some of the more self impressed routine theatre goers may have quipped aloud to their partner but with the clear expectation of impressing those within earshot “Well, that’s the first thing in this play you couldn’t see coming from a mile away” in a simultaneous attempt to sound quite witty and cut the tension. At some point, still only seconds after the commotion began, Mrs. Lincoln and Major Rathbone’s fiancee (two different women) begin to scream that their men are mortally wounded, the president is dead, “is there a doctor here”, etc., causing a general panic to settle in, with some perhaps thinking “God I hope it’s true I hate that son of a bitch”, for Lincoln was not nearly as beloved then as in retrospect, a few more probably feeling their very soul torn asunder by even the suggestion he is harmed for even at his public approval nadir there were those who did love him, many perhaps thinking “I gave him mixed reviews but my god… that he should be slain at the very moment of his greatest triumph!”, others perhaps thinking but not gutsy or rude or willing-to-be-perceived-as-racist enough to say aloud "Well, I hate to think the nation is thrown into disorder and chaos by a madman’s bullet, but if you’ve ever been here when it was ‘Contraband, Slaves and Freedmen Get in Free Night’ and heard the crowd all talking to the stage during the performance then you’ll see something in a theater that really makes you mad, and perhaps a few who do so aloud “I hate it when fucking actors think they’re experts on politics!”, BUT, ultimately, as the smoke clears, one think is consistent enough in spite of the enormous diversity and the din:
John Wilkes Booth is involved in this.
So, that was not a wild assumption, lots of witnesses.
Now then, “Did he act alone or not? Well, we don’t know, but there’s a good chance he had accomplices or at least that he told others what was going on, so let’s do a dragnet”. This happens- soldiers and police go looking for every known associate of Booth of whom there are many in hopes of getting some answers and, ideally, finding Booth himself.
Soon, just as with the Internet on 9-11, telegraphs are literally jammed across the nation as probably more electricity than ever before artificially generated in one time is crisscrossing the nation with telegraphs about the night’s events:
Secretary of State Seward attacked in his home/STOP/assailant a very large man/STOP/may be named Lewis Payne/STOP/may be named Lewis Powell/STOP/goes by both/STOP/bears a resemblance to Finn from Glee/Known associate of Booth/STOP/George Atzerodt also known associate of Booth arrested and singing to investigators on the Mall tonight like Sammy Davis muthafuckin’ Jr. will sing on the Mall in another century/STOP/We’re talking singing he’s naming names and and going wild and shit, Conspiracy almost certain/STOP/Mrs. Adelaide Spencer Wilbury of Anacostia Falls Earns as much as $8 per day from her own home if you would like to know how she does it transmit here (this is a paid ad and Mrs. Verda Adelaid Spencer Wilbury’s results may not be typical)/STOP/arresting other known associates of Booth/STOP/P.S. General Grant just texted 'Oh that poor Mr. Lincoln should have to suffer such unimaginable horror from one so vile & vicious & insane & selfish & evil & uncaring/STOP/Mrs. Grant then texted 'But enough about Mary Todd, have they found out who shot him yet?/STOP/Secretary Stanton responded back 'ROFLMFAO! and Morse emoticons to Mrs. Grant/STOP/Major Rathbone fiancee wired ‘You ain’t f____in’ kidding me if Booth hadn’t popped a cap up in here tonight I would have LOL/STOP/Booth had already crossed Potomac Bridge before it was closed/STOP/Reward?/STOP.
Anyway, the point is that literally within an hour of killing Lincoln it was already clear there was a conspiracy afoot. It wasn’t wild however but the result of observation, logic, and completely obvious events that were transpiring. The kooky conspiracy theories didn’t start til later.
To be continued if interest dictates.
Having seen more than one of Mozart1220’s posts…I have to say that willful ignorance isn’t going to go away…ever.
Not intended to hijack…but at what point does this kind of posting behavior become a form of trolling? No matter how much evidence to the contrary is presented, this guy continues to believe what he wants. His statements are (presumably unintentionally) inflammatory. … And unrelated to the OP.
Just give it up dude…you’re preaching to the wrong crowd. Really…it’s like promoting vegetarianism on a beef cattle ranch. It’s just not gonna work out well for you, and your noisemaking is not well received.
