# "Why I don't think OMG ABC believes his own bullshit" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 26, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984 "2012-10-26T23:47:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/1 "2012-10-26T23:47:21Z")
Because **OMG a Black Conservative** consistently refuses to put his money where his mouth is. I actually am not interested in betting him money that Obama will win the election. I’m interested in shaming him (and risking shaming myself) by offering to bet that the loser will put something embarrassing in his sig line, something along the lines of “I was embarrassingly wrong about the 2012 election, pretending to have confidence in an outcome that did not happen” and there’s been a remarkable lack of interest in this bet. I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/2 "2012-10-27T00:07:52Z")
Oh for god’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/3 "2012-10-27T00:10:45Z")
And if Romney wins, you’ll leave the board again? ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/4 "2012-10-27T00:12:25Z")
In a pit thread I started a while back, I labeled him specifically as a deep-cover-liberal. Anyone who thinks he’s serious is ridiculously mistaken. Of course, it’s so hard to tell a conservative from a parody of one these days that I can hardly blame those who do take him earnestly. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/5 "2012-10-27T00:14:38Z")
Great, just what an obvious troll needs, a whole thread dedicated to him. For fuck’s sake people, how much more blatant does a troll need to get? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/6 "2012-10-27T00:42:45Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And if Romney wins, you’ll leave the board again? **Liberal** way far to kind to let him come back and give him the money early. (I believe that’s how it went down) ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/7 "2012-10-27T00:51:02Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Liberal** way far to kind to let him come back and give him the money early. (I believe that’s how it went down) This is only among your many beliefs that are incorrect. You’ll need someone more confident than I am in Obama’s re-election to bet his future posting on it, tempting as it is in the event that OMG ABC loses. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/8 "2012-10-27T01:01:38Z")
make a decent wager loser will put something embarrassing in his sig line and the loser mow the winner’s lawn in his wife’s Sunday dress. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/9 "2012-10-27T01:14:13Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > Great, just what an obvious troll needs, a whole thread dedicated to him. For fuck’s sake people, how much more blatant does a troll need to get? :rolleyes: Obviously more blatant, seeing as he’s not been banned. He may be here to stir things up, but I do think he really is a conservative. He just lacks the courage of his convictions. That isn’t too unusual for a non-religious conservative, as many of them believe as they do out of fear. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/10 "2012-10-27T01:18:46Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And if Romney wins, you’ll leave the board again? It’s an ill wind that blows no good. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/11 "2012-10-27T01:29:37Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Because **OMG a Black Conservative** consistently refuses to put his money where his mouth is. > > I actually am not interested in betting him money that Obama will win the election. I’m interested in shaming him (and risking shaming myself) by offering to bet that the loser will put something embarrassing in his sig line, something along the lines of “I was embarrassingly wrong about the 2012 election, pretending to have confidence in an outcome that did not happen” and there’s been a remarkable lack of interest in this bet. I wonder why? On this board, that sig – from you, if Romney wins – would be regarded as a badge of honor, as opposed to anything shameful. What’s next? A bet that if you lose, you have to let Megan Fox give you a oil massage once a day? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/12 "2012-10-27T23:03:00Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > He may be here to stir things up, but I do think he really is a conservative. That’s not actually the part of his username that I doubt… ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/13 "2012-10-27T23:51:03Z")
Because I don’t care about getting some meaningless internet gratification about being right about the election any more than it would bother me that someone I’ve never met and will probably never would get some gratification out of me being wrong. The world still would turn and life would go on. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/14 "2012-10-27T23:54:40Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > That’s not actually the part of his username that I doubt… I know, I don’t think there’s really a God that you can meaningfully invoke with the phrase “Oh My God” either. 😃 Anyway, I don’t get this whole betting thing. I never bet about **anything** no matter how sure I am. I don’t see why refusing to bet would be a hint that I don’t believe what I’m saying – it’s just not who I am. Is there some reason he’s given to believe that OMG bets on other things? ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/15 "2012-10-28T00:01:20Z")
Yeah, whoever’s wrong will have to live with four years of a President they dread and the resulting consequences; that’s a greater punishment than any silly bet, ISTM. ETA: Then again, it’s quite possible that the winner ends up suffering those consequences, and the loser ends up benefiting from them… ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/16 "2012-10-28T00:03:18Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I know, I don’t think there’s really a God that you can meaningfully invoke with the phrase “Oh My God” either. 😃 > > Anyway, I don’t get this whole betting thing. I never bet about **anything** no matter how sure I am. I don’t see why refusing to bet would be a hint that I don’t believe what I’m saying – it’s just not who I am. Is there some reason he’s given to believe that OMG bets on other things? Well, to be fair, I was willing to bet this one chick on here who said that abortions would be illegal in South (maybe it was North) Dakota come mid-Summer. But that was only because the assertion was laughable on its face and had 0% of actually coming true. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/17 "2012-10-28T01:15:54Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Well, to be fair, I was willing to bet this one chick on here who said that abortions would be illegal in South (maybe it was North) Dakota come mid-Summer. But that was only because the assertion was laughable on its face and had 0% of actually coming true. Not familiar with the details of your courageous almost-wager, but was it only the mid-summer timeline that rendered the idea laughable? Each of the Dakotas has a single functioning abortion clinic, North Dakota has passed a law proclaiming their intent to ban abortion to the fullest extent the Constitution will allow, and South Dakota is one of four states that has announced its intention to ban abortion outright if Roe v. Wade is overturned. So yeah, summer came and went and abortion is still (barely) available in those states, but it certainly isn’t for their lack of trying. ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/18 "2012-10-28T01:18:07Z")
Gambling problem? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/19 "2012-10-28T01:57:04Z")
but I don’t think he’s a troll, I think he’s sincere in his beliefs. Mistaken, I think, (and we’ll see), but honest. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/20 "2012-10-28T02:03:08Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > but I don’t think he’s a troll, I think he’s sincere in his beliefs. Mistaken, I think, (and we’ll see), but honest. If he was sincere, I think he’d leap to take my bet. In fact, since the wording is up to him, he has more control over the terms than I do. But he would never agree. You need to ask yourself why. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984.md?page=2)