# "Why I don't think OMG ABC believes his own bullshit" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 26, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984 "2012-10-26T23:47:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/61 "2012-10-29T17:21:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > What’s next? A bet that if you lose, you have to let Megan Fox give you a oil massage once a day? I reluctantly accept your wager ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/62 "2012-10-29T17:32:29Z")
Only one, though. She can only exude so much in one day. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/63 "2012-10-29T19:14:28Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > How am I full of shit, exactly? Are you claiming that I WOULDN’T bet OMG ABC on the election? That betting isn’t evidence of one’s beliefs? > > What exactly are you saying here? I’m not sure I can put it even more simply, but I’ll try. If over 50% of the readers of this OP tell you “you are wrong, it doesn’t mean what you think it means, you are full of shit, your conclusions about OMG are unwarranted, and you are a doofus”, will you stop the inanity? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/64 "2012-10-29T20:07:29Z")
Let’s find out. **PRR** , you are wrong. It doesn’t mean what you think it means. You are full of shit, your conclusions about **OMG** are unwarranted, and you are a doofus. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/65 "2012-10-30T21:50:37Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Nothing wrong with it. I’m just saying that OMG ABC is boasting that “Obama is toast,” which is more confidence in Romney than I have in Obama, although I have more reason to have confidence than he does. I’m willing to bet on my candidate, yet he continues to run his mouth but refuses to bet on it. Right, ok. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/66 "2012-10-30T22:32:48Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > I’m not sure I can put it even more simply, but I’ll try. If over 50% of the readers of this OP tell you “you are wrong, it doesn’t mean what you think it means, you are full of shit, your conclusions about OMG are unwarranted, and you are a doofus”, will you stop the inanity? > [@](#): > > you are wrong, I’m wrong about what? I stated my opinion (that OMG is trolling, that he doesn’t believe what he professes to believe, and that is why he refuses to make a wager about the election results)–how can my opinion be wrong? You might disagree with it, but that is just another opinion. > [@](#): > > it doesn’t mean what you think it means What is “it”? > [@](#): > > you are full of shit U 2 > [@](#): > > your conclusions about OMG are unwarranted so this means what? You disagree with my opinion? What a shocker! > [@](#): > > and you are a doofus U 3 ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/67 "2012-10-30T23:02:41Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I’m wrong about what? I stated my opinion (that OMG is trolling, that he doesn’t believe what he professes to believe, and that is why he refuses to make a wager about the election results)–how can my opinion be wrong? You might disagree with it, but that is just another opinion. > What is “it”? > U 2 > so this means what? You disagree with my opinion? What a shocker! > U 3 Carry on, Donald. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/68 "2012-10-30T23:41:16Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > Carry on, Donald. OOH! Good one! ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/69 "2012-10-30T23:45:03Z")
Yeah, the best I could do in the face of your rapier-like wit. After “U3” I was just _devastated_. :rolleyes: Whatever. This is a waste of time. I’d sooner visit the Argument Clinic. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/70 "2012-10-31T00:25:55Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > Yeah, the best I could do in the face of your rapier-like wit. After “U3” I was just _devastated_. :rolleyes: > Whatever. This is a waste of time. I’d sooner visit the Argument Clinic. Fail. Buh-bye. Don’t let the door… ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/71 "2012-10-31T08:58:17Z")
FTR, OMG summarized his POV in post 55 of the election outcome predictions thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=669306&page=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=669306&page=2) Incredibly **adaher** , who by now must have made hundreds of largely unsubstantiated posts in the elections forum, hasn’t as yet manned up and stated his predictions. Now _that’s_ quality horsepucky. Then again neither has **pseudotriton ruber ruber** : both sides do it! Well not really: prr hasn’t given the Elections forum the blanket coverage that adaher has. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/72 "2012-10-31T09:26:05Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > . … **pseudotriton ruber ruber** :[hasn’t as yet manned up and stated his predictions]. Really? I think Obama will win, and I’m willing to bet my sig-line on that. Which part of that do you think I haven’t stated clearly yet? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/73 "2012-10-31T09:46:25Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I admit, it’s very small potatoes. > > But he isn’t willing to risk even that. What does that tell you? That he doesn’t give a fuck about you or your bet. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/74 "2012-10-31T10:03:16Z")
Possibly. But I think if he thought he’d win, he’d be all over it. As I said, if I offered him the same bet but with lower standards, like Romney not getting 200 EVs, he’d view it as a chance to make me look foolish at little risk to himself. He could propose the most abasing, self-insulting sig line, and get me to wear it for 90 days, or whatever we agreed, and bear almost no risk of having to bear it himself, so I think that would be attractive to him. I think it’s the risk of having to wear it himself that deters him. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/75 "2012-10-31T13:52:03Z")
[Here’s an opportunity to put your money where your mouth is.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15646407&postcount=16) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/76 "2012-10-31T15:15:54Z")
[Oh, so you admit you’re a troll.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15646741&postcount=32) That clears a few things up. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/77 "2012-10-31T15:24:36Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > [Oh, so you admit you’re a troll.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15646741&postcount=32) That clears a few things up. I certainly cheerfully admit to employing hyperbole in this thread, as have many others. And I do so swiftly, openly, and clearly. Report me, by all means, if you think that I (and I expect all the users of hyperbole) will be found to be trolling in this thread–even the Mods have a sense of humor. Such a shame not everyone does, **John Mace**. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/78 "2012-10-31T15:33:56Z")
That’s a heck of a sense of humor you got there, Pseudy! But at least now we know you don’t believe what you post. That actually explains a lot, too. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/79 "2012-10-31T18:07:40Z")
I’m hearing nothing from the Mods, and after all your ceaseless effort in pressing and pressing on the “Report” button too. Or is it that you don’t think you’d be taken seriously in reporting me for trolling? Nah. Couldn’t be. You said I was trolling so you obviously reported me to every mod you could think of, and I’ll be hearing from them soon. I’ll come back to this thread to report every so often on my communications with the mods you’ve reported me to. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984/80 "2012-10-31T18:54:37Z")
Hey PRR, you hear from those mods yet? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-dont-think-omg-abc-believes-his-own-bullshit/638984.md?page=5)