# Why I hate cops **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 19, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174 "2014-06-19T21:38:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/81 "2014-06-20T17:16:57Z")
I didn’t state anything that wasn’t common knowledge. Except my own rationality. 😃 But here: [Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops](http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836) There’s also [today’s news of a cop shooting a man in the back](http://fox13now.com/2014/06/20/police-too-quick-to-shoot-cops-shot-kill-new-mexico-homeless-man/). If all these shootings are so justified, why are the payouts so high? What are they wasting millions of taxpayer dollars for? Just to be nice? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/82 "2014-06-20T17:17:54Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > Cops are chosen for their low IQs. Degrees are not required. We give them guns and tell them we’ll cover up any shooting or fatal beating they commit. Then we tell them to target minorities and the poor because they’re “criminals.” > > I’m a tiny little white girl who’s never been arrested and I fear the cops because I am a rational human being. You’re also a lying piece of shit who lives in La-La Land. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/83 "2014-06-20T17:18:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The day isn’t over just yet and LibrarySpy is still online. That’s definitely a throwing stones from a glass house comment right there. Damnit, that was supposed to be an edit. > [@Drunky Smurf](#): > > You’re also a lying piece of shit who lives in La-La Land. Wait, because I’ve never been beaten by the police, I don’t get go fear them? Is… that your logic? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/84 "2014-06-20T17:22:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Cops are chosen for their low IQs. Degrees are not required. We give them guns and tell them we’ll cover up any shooting or fatal beating they commit. Then we tell them to target minorities and the poor because they’re “criminals.” > [@LibrarySpy](#): > > But here: [Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops](http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836) Slightly above average does not equal low, below average equals low. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/85 "2014-06-20T17:25:23Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > If all these shootings are so justified, why are the payouts so high? What are they wasting millions of taxpayer dollars for? Just to be nice? Put it this way: it’s a lot easier to waste someone else’s money. On the other hand, it’s also much easier to be a rational actor when dealing with someone else’s money and settling a case just to avoid the cost of litigation is usually the correct thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/86 "2014-06-20T17:30:37Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > I’m a tiny little white girl who’s never been arrested and I fear the cops because I am a rational human being. Didn’t you say in other threads that you were a guy? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/87 "2014-06-20T17:32:51Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > Slightly above average does not equal low, below average equals low. Also, it was one town in New York, back at the turn of the century, and it was for job of police chief. **LibrarySpy** made it sound as if it was SOP for cops to be picked for low intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/88 "2014-06-20T17:37:14Z")
> [@Count Blucher](#): > > Didn’t you say in other threads that you were a guy? I… sure hope not. Always been a girl. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > LibrarySpy made it sound as if it was SOP for cops to be picked for low intelligence. [Riiiiight](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cops+low+iqs). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/89 "2014-06-20T17:43:56Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > I… sure hope not. Always been a girl. > > [Riiiiight](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cops+low+iqs). Speaking of IQs and conceptual difficulties, do you understand that it’s a logical fallacy to simply say that “Not High IQ,” is the same as “Low IQ.” What about the range of IQs fairly described as average? When you link to news stories about rejecting high IQ applicants, you have not proved a thing about hiring only low IQ applicants. In fact, from your first link: > [@](#): > > But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training. > > The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average. So the link explicitly disproves your claim – most police officers are a little above average. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/90 "2014-06-20T17:51:18Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > [Riiiiight](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cops+low+iqs). That’s better. Don’t blame me because your first cite didn’t back up your claim sufficiently. If someone says they have a field full of blue cows but only shows me a snapshot of one blue cow, I wonder how difficult it would have been to just show me a picture of the whole herd. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/91 "2014-06-20T17:58:09Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That’s better. Don’t blame me because your first cite didn’t back up your claim sufficiently. If someone says they have a field full of blue cows but only shows me a snapshot of one blue cow, I wonder how difficult it would have been to just show me a picture of the whole herd. It doesn’t seem that much better; pretty much all the sights I looked at were different articles about the same story, saying the same thing. I gave up after clicking on several of the results. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/92 "2014-06-20T18:10:13Z")
I have had no good experiences with them and plenty of pretty bad ones. And I am a law abiding citizen. I don’t hate “cops”, they do a tough job that must be done. Can’t say I love them, though. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/93 "2014-06-20T18:17:00Z")
Too late to edit: I did not see Koxinga’s “many, many white people” post. Ayeup. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/94 "2014-06-20T18:19:37Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Speaking of IQs and conceptual difficulties, do you understand that it’s a logical fallacy to simply say that “Not High IQ,” is the same as “Low IQ.” You forget this is an internet message board. Everyone has an IQ over 150. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/95 "2014-06-20T18:21:19Z")
Plebians. Mine is over 250. Just like everyone else’s. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/96 "2014-06-20T18:28:14Z")
Let me show you how different people of color’s experiences are: When I was 7 me and my 10 year old aunt got separated from our family in New York’s Botanical Garden in The Bronx. After wandering for what seemed like hours with my aunt comforting me as I became more and more hysterical she said, “Look, policemen. They’ll help us.” So we walked up to them, me hysterically crying and my aunt being super brave. “Can you please help us? We live at 2010 Prospect Ave.” Let me reiterate: We were seven and ten years old. This is the answer she got “Yeah, you take the bus.” His partner thought that line was hilarious. They both yukked it up and left us there. I did not have many positive personal experiences with policeman growing up. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/97 "2014-06-20T18:31:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Plebians. Mine is over 250. Just like everyone else’s. Mine is only 195, but I taught myself to read in 3 different languages when I was only 6 weeks old. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/98 "2014-06-20T18:34:51Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Mine is only 195, but I taught myself to read in 3 different languages when I was only 6 weeks old. You too? And here I thought I was the only one! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/99 "2014-06-20T18:36:02Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Speaking of IQs and conceptual difficulties, do you understand that it’s a logical fallacy to simply say that “Not High IQ,” is the same as “Low IQ.” > > What about the range of IQs fairly described as average? > > When you link to news stories about rejecting high IQ applicants, you have not proved a thing about hiring only low IQ applicants. > > In fact, from your first link: > > So the link explicitly disproves your claim – most police officers are a little above average. Okay, so they don’t hire smart people. Little scary considering we give them infallible word, a gun, and a badge. > [@Koxinga](#): > > In this thread: many, many white people. Heh, so I am not white, and it really is a trip to see how different the police presence is in white places. When I first moved to Minnesota I had a holy shit moment. “Wow, so the cops here just kind of mind their own business and then help people when they need it?” Odd, considering I was certain the cops’ purpose was to try to find something to arrest you for. God, one time my brother was with his friends at our own damn house and the cops came into our yard to “investigate.” Investigate what? Get off our porch, you dicks. This sort of thing did not happen in lily white Minnesota. I was like “Oh, this is why white people like cops so much.” They don’t live under constant harassment. Cops are actually there to help. Weird. Same goes in my current neighborhood that has like zero black people in it where the cops are just kind of distant but helpful when you need them. In other hoods, not so much. P.S. My IQ is one bajillion. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174/100 "2014-06-20T18:40:19Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > O > P.S. My IQ is one bajillion. As far as IQ goes, let me just say nobody will ever be calling me officer Nylock:p [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-cops/691174.md?page=6)