# Why I hate my students **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2000, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227 "2000-07-01T01:41:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DandyDo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f19dbf/32.png) [@DandyDo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DandyDo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/101 "2013-05-09T18:27:05Z")
No wonder people disappear from this place. So many people just jump on here to slam others when they post. Yesterday was a very frustrating day due to ONE particular student, so I looked up rants about students and this thread popped up. Frankly, I didn’t care that it was 13 years old. I was tired and frustrated and the original post made me laugh. While most days I love my students and love teaching them, yesterday was not one of those days, so I felt like venting a bit too, anonymously. Thought that was what this place was for. Maybe all of you should try teaching for 20+ years and see if at least a few days during all that time you, too, don’t want to vent. Heck, at least I came here to vent and didn’t bring it home or take it out on my students, who for the most part I like, but most are not prepared for college anymore. It’s sad more than anything else to be a witness to how the United States educational system is going rapidly downhill. Just look at how poorly our students perform compared to other nations. This was not the case 20 years ago. I know why don’t all of you bitching that this is a 13 year old thread try to find a solution to our nation’s deteriorating educational system. I can tell you now, the damage has already been done before these young adults reach college. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/102 "2013-05-09T18:52:03Z")
Chill out, ferchrissakes. You may not care if this is a 13 year old thread, but this board administration does. Ask a mod if you don’t believe me. They’d rather have you start a new thread to bitch about what you want to bitch about than to dredge up an ancient one where you’re basically yelling at people who don’t even post here anymore. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/103 "2013-05-09T18:53:02Z")
> [@DandyDo](#): > > No wonder people disappear from this place. So many people just jump on here to slam others when they post. Welcome to the pit. Stay for the cookies. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/104 "2013-05-09T19:21:58Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > You all do realize this thread is 13 years old and the odds of **light strand** answering you or even still being around is very slim. Reading is fundamental, including dates. Yeah? And? I was responding to another poster’s post, not to the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/105 "2013-05-09T20:30:42Z")
And the person you are ‘defending’ is likely not here anymore and therefore likely not reading this thread and could give two shits about it. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/106 "2013-05-09T20:31:56Z")
> [@DandyDo](#): > > I know why don’t all of you bitching that this is a 13 year old thread try to find a solution to our nation’s deteriorating educational system. This has to be one of the most idiotic statements I’ve ever read. ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/107 "2013-05-09T20:38:34Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > You may not care if this is a 13 year old thread, but this board administration does. Not in the Pit. Didn’t seem to notice that? If the administration did really care about zombie threads in this forum, **Miller** would have already closed it. I have seen this happen with another zombie too; **Miller** didn’t close it. So yes, it is pointless for you (and others) to bitch about this thread being 13 years old. ---
**Author:** ![DandyDo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f19dbf/32.png) [@DandyDo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DandyDo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/108 "2013-05-09T20:41:51Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > This has to be one of the most idiotic statements I’ve ever read. Right because asking that people take their negative energy and turn that energy into something positive is idiotic in your mind. Kimballkid, emphasis on kid, you don’t have to read this thread if it annoys you so. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/109 "2013-05-09T20:46:20Z")
So why don’t you take your negative energy toward your students and redirect it into curing restless leg syndrome or something. You’re just wasting time flapping your yap here. Those shaky legs aren’t going to calm themselves, you know. ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/110 "2013-05-09T20:47:08Z")
I am with **DandyDo**. Stop getting so butthurt over the resurrection of this zombie thread. This isn’t GQ, GD or IMHO (and other forums) where zombie threads get closed; it’s the _Pit_. And besides, **DandyDo** resurrected it with an actual post that actually contributes to the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/111 "2013-05-09T20:48:56Z")
> [@DandyDo](#): > > Right because asking that people take their negative energy and turn that energy into something positive is idiotic in your mind. Kimballkid, emphasis on kid, you don’t have to read this thread if it annoys you so. What’s idiotic is taking some minor bitching on a message board and extrapolating that into some kind of call for action. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/112 "2013-05-09T21:44:07Z")
> [@DandyDo](#): > > … So many people just jump on here to slam others when they post. … Well, that’s pretty much an unofficial rule of the SDMB Pit. You get to bitch on the internet but it also gets to bitch back. If you can’t take it, stay out of the pit. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/113 "2013-05-09T22:27:47Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > A college professor ranting about how dumb her students are really should make sure she spells _plagiarizing_ correctly; lest she look somewhat silly. As silly as that semi-colon? ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/114 "2013-05-09T22:49:19Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > You may not care if this is a 13 year old thread, but this board administration does. I’ve never seen any evidence that the board administration cares about anything other than the check from Google Ads at the end of the month. Let alone zombie threads. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/115 "2013-05-09T22:53:49Z")
> [@DandyDo](#): > > No wonder people disappear from this place. So many people just jump on here to slam others when they post. This is the Pit, fuckstick. You come in here throwing shit and get flustered when some lands on you? Sounds like you want to stay in MPSIMS instead. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/116 "2013-05-09T22:57:31Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > I’ve never seen any evidence that the board administration cares about anything other than the check from Google Ads at the end of the month. > > Let alone zombie threads. There are dirty words, when said repeatedly, that can get you banned. Like the swearing version of Candyman. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/117 "2013-05-10T00:40:32Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > As silly as that semi-colon? Ok, point taken but I am not a professor ranting about the idiocy of her students. (I have a problem with semi-colons, this I know. I put them where they don’t belong and just generally use them much too frequently. But I can stop whenever I want! It’s under control.) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/118 "2013-05-10T01:12:06Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > I’ve never seen any evidence that the board administration cares about … zombie threads. They used to more than they do now. > [@Ambivalid](#): > > (I have a problem with semi-colons, this I know. I put them where they don’t belong and just generally use them much too frequently. But I can stop whenever I want! It’s under control.) Screw the rules; use them like 19th-century novelists did: as rests are used in music because their writings were intended to be read aloud. A comma equals a quarter rest, a semicolon equals a half rest, a colon a dotted half rest, and a period, or full stop, a whole rest. **DandyDo** , the Pit is not for the faint of heart, and new members are usually discouraged from venturing here. Don’t take any of this abuse personally; just take heart in how students have not become less hateful over the past half of a generation. (looking around) And neither have some of us. I, for one, am still the pompous windbag I was 13 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/119 "2013-05-10T03:16:39Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > That’s such a difficult age. The zombie waking was totally worth it for this. Bravo, sir. > [@DandyDo](#): > > Just look at how poorly our students perform compared to other nations. This was not the case 20 years ago. Yeah, it was. People have been wringing their hands about the dumbing down of American students since about 1950. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227/120 "2013-05-10T03:39:38Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Yeah, it was. People have been wringing their hands about the dumbing down of American students since about 1950. NO. You forgot about **Starving Artist’s** interpretation of those halcyon days. For shame. Your accuracy meter is WAY off! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-my-students/24227.md?page=7)