# Why I hate the Church of Scientology

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 19, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020 "2003-06-19T22:25:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/21 "2003-06-21T17:45:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ray Walker \*  
> \*\*I hate to hijack a thread, but I resent you labeling SB’s as a cult. \*\*

How do you feel about the Catholic cult? The Jehovah’s Witness cult? Seventh Day Adventist cult? The Methodist cult?

They’re all, including Baptists, cults. Some just have more members than others.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/22 "2003-06-21T17:50:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by obfusciatrist \*  
> \*\*How do you feel about the Catholic cult? The Jehovah’s Witness cult? Seventh Day Adventist cult? The Methodist cult?
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> They’re all, including Baptists, cults. Some just have more members than others. \*\*

What criterion do you use to judge these religions you listed as being cults?

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/23 "2003-06-21T18:34:46Z")

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The dictionary definition?

Main Entry: cult  
Pronunciation: 'k&lt  
Function: noun  
Usage: often attributive  
Etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate – more at WHEEL  
Date: 1617  
1 : formal religious veneration : WORSHIP  
2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/24 "2003-06-21T19:50:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by obfusciatrist \*  
> \*\*How do you feel about the Catholic cult? The Jehovah’s Witness cult? Seventh Day Adventist cult? The Methodist cult?
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> They’re all, including Baptists, cults. Some just have more members than others. \*\*

At least they don’t charge $300,000 for the scriptures. Any of the “cults” you mentioned would gladly give you a free bible.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/25 "2003-06-21T21:54:39Z")

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> What criterion do you use to judge these religions you listed as being cults?

I have my own personal system for telling the difference.

A religion is where it relies on the members to continue existing.

A cult is where the members rely on it to continue existing.

In Catholicism, if you choose to leave the church, it’s not official policy to harass and slander you (sure, some of the members might be assholes, but you get that in ANY group).

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**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2003, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/26 "2003-06-21T22:52:51Z")

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What is it with CoS and Hollywood? Are that many celebrities members, or do we just hear about them because they are celebrities?

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**Author:** ![hkhenson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f4b2a3/32.png) [@hkhenson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hkhenson)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/27 "2003-06-22T01:38:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ElwoodCuse \*  
> \*\*What is it with CoS and Hollywood? Are that many celebrities members, or do we just hear about them because they are celebrities? \*\*

No, there really are a lot more scientologist in Hollywood per capita than the rest of the US. There are two reasons. Scientology goes after these people is a minor factor. The major one is that people who become actors are _highly_ rewarded by the attention they get, and Scientology (like all cults) gives them lots of attention. Christopher Reeves has a bunch to say about this that you can read in his book or you can find bits and pieces quoted on the news group alt.religion.scientology.

If you want to know _why_ people are so rewarded by attention, put “sex drugs cults” in Google and take the first link.

Keith Henson

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-hate-the-church-of-scientology/183020/28 "2003-06-22T03:15:53Z")

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The Straight Dope on [Scientology](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_134.html).

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