# Why I intentionally ruined your coffee beverage (and you don't know it)!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 3, 2005, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868 "2005-12-03T04:51:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/41 "2005-12-03T05:47:33Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> I think I _am_ going to take a break from the SDMB - I keep thinking I’m going to get support here, only to provoke a lynch mob every time. I’m not playing the martyr - I’m realizing that maybe it **is** me that’s wrong (about a lot of things).
> 
> Who’s interested in that? A show of hands, please.

Well, I have mixed feelings about you. Email me if you take a break; I have music discussions I’d like to have with you. But you’re still way wrong in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Morelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Morelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morelin)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/42 "2005-12-03T05:48:12Z")

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> [@PeterWiggen](#):
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> You know, my mother is deathly allergic to caffeine. If something was to happen to her because of your childishness, I would probably skullfuck you before doing something horrible to you. Just an FYI.
> 
> Regards.

I’m not allergic, but too much will make me pass out, or worse. This is why I order naturally decaf drinks if I don’t personally know the barista.

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**Author:** ![kaiwik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaiwik/32/3978_2.png) [@kaiwik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaiwik)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/43 "2005-12-03T05:48:58Z")

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Having worked in various service jobs, I am able to empathize with your frustrations, even anger. However, it is your **choice** to allow the rude, inconsiderate, and unpleasant patrons to get your goat, to put it mildly. I would suggest a change of employment, the stress is not healthy for you. Taking into consideration the holiday season things are bound to become worse as people stress themselves with the shopping, decorating, family dynamics, etc. I would think that you would be doing yourself a favor by finding alternate employment, particularly of the type where you needn’t have to deal with the public.

I do hope that you have exaggerated your revenge incidents, they are neither mature, creative, and some are downright illegal.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/44 "2005-12-03T05:49:04Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> I think I _am_ going to take a break from the SDMB - I keep thinking I’m going to get support here, only to provoke a lynch mob every time. I’m not playing the martyr - I’m realizing that maybe it **is** me that’s wrong (about a lot of things).
> 
> Who’s interested in that? A show of hands, please.

I’m wondering why you would think you’d get support for adulterating the beverages of unwitting consumers with substances that they specifically asked you not to put in them, probably for some very good reasons. It’s no different than strapping them down and injecting them with the stuff. You’re taking away their right to avoid things that can damage them without even giving them a chance to get out of the trap.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/45 "2005-12-03T05:49:07Z")

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Oh for fuck’s sake people, HE IS JOKING. It’s fiction. Some of you must live to get offended.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/46 "2005-12-03T05:49:27Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> Um, the guy threatened to **murder** me first.
> 
> Besides, the “Lol” is basically a gigantic ;), not legitimate l33t sp33k as the other guy seemed to think.

Let’s analyze this shall we:

(a) my mother is deathly allergic to caffeine.

(b) you put caffeine into people’s drinks simply to indulge your fragile ego.

(c) anyone who would inflict harm upon her for the sheer reason that they have parlayed their two bachelors degrees into a barista position gets no quarter from me.

You should reassess. You obviously have some problems and should address them before you hurt someone or yourself.

> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I dunno, yeah, this one struck me as way more violent. Possible, abstract damage from one remote coffee shop where the OP works to direct threat of violence against a poster on the boards.

Anaamika - it is not any more violent seeing as **my mother is deathly allergic to caffeine.** As in she could die. If this jerk put caffeine in her drink, this is not remote. And for the record, my reply is not a direct threat - merely a (remote) speculation of what I would do were my mother to suffer at the hands of this predator.

> [@GoodEgg](#):
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> I love Peter Wiggen.

Love ya back.

And on preview, **Morelin** - quite sensible.

- Peter Wiggen

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/47 "2005-12-03T05:50:12Z")

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I think if any of us had a loved one die because a pissed off coffee-shop worker deliberately screwed up their order and gave them something they were severely allergic to, the temptation to seek a violent gory revenge would be pretty strong.

I’m sure most of us would let the law handle it, though.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/48 "2005-12-03T05:50:44Z")

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That wouldn’t be joking, joking is obvious. That would be trolling.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/49 "2005-12-03T05:50:56Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Oh for fuck’s sake people, HE IS JOKING. It’s fiction. Some of you must live to get offended.

I did not get that sense. Especially given some of the OP’s other “work” on this board.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/50 "2005-12-03T05:52:03Z")

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> [@PeterWiggen](#):
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> Anaamika - it is not any more violent seeing as **my mother is deathly allergic to caffeine.** As in she could die. If this jerk put caffeine in her drink, this is not remote. And for the record, my reply is not a direct threat - merely a (remote) speculation of what I would do were my mother to suffer at the hands of this predator.

I don’t deny any of this, \*\*Pete \*\*my dear. Not at all. I just wanted to point out I also understand his reaction of simply answering “lol”.

I mean, for you to take it personally and answer with such a personal remark even though

a) you have no idea where the OP is  
b) or that your mother is in any danger from him  
c) or, indeed, any proof that this whole thing was just a joke

it just seemed like an extreme reaction to me. My apologies all the same.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/51 "2005-12-03T05:52:18Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Maybe he just fantasizes about skullfucking. That’s perfectly OK, right?

> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Let’s ask him.

Hehe. Of course I fantasize about skullfucking! Haven’t you guys read my post after post about the proper way to skullfuck? And which Hollywood star would be the best to skullfuck? Clearly.

And right now I’m fantasizing about skullfucking someone who would deliberately and pettily feed my mother a substance she is allergic to.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/52 "2005-12-03T05:52:28Z")

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> [@kaiwik](#):
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> I do hope that you have exaggerated your revenge incidents, they are neither mature, creative, and some are downright illegal.

Look, I’m going to let the cat out of the bag right here - the whole OP was hyperbole, an airing of frustration at our infuriating customers. I think the worst “revenge type” thing I’ve done to someone’s coffee is using milk that’s been sitting around a while at room temperature, and that’s only because hew as a major dickhead and I wanted him to have a mediocre drink.

I thought more peopel would see the humor in this and commiserate, but I guess I was wrong.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/53 "2005-12-03T05:53:08Z")

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> [@PeterWiggen](#):
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> Hehe. Of course I fantasize about skullfucking! Haven’t you guys read my post after post about the proper way to skullfuck? And which Hollywood star would be the best to skullfuck? Clearly.
> 
> And right now I’m fantasizing about skullfucking someone who would deliberately and pettily feed my mother a substance she is allergic to.

Was it, say…10 % of your posting history? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/54 "2005-12-03T05:54:31Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> I think

Another blatant untruth.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/55 "2005-12-03T05:55:35Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I don’t deny any of this, \*\*Pete \*\*my dear. Not at all. I just wanted to point out I also understand his reaction of simply answering “lol”.
> 
> I mean, for you to take it personally and answer with such a personal remark even though
> 
> a) you have no idea where the OP is  
> b) or that your mother is in any danger from him  
> c) or, indeed, any proof that this whole thing was just a joke
> 
> it just seemed like an extreme reaction to me. My apologies all the same.

Ah no - I wasn’t trying to elicit an apology - simply defending myself. I have no issue with you taking my comments in one way or the other. The truth is: (a) the OP is listed as being from Chicago - I’m a long way from there and so is my mother; (b) this may very well be a joke/troll post. Fine.

But here’s the thing - if it ISN’T a joke, then I would like it realized that these actions are not justified. Perhaps I did react extremely and personally. But I believe that was justified. Why? Because innocent people, even if they do talk on the cell phone at the coffee counter, might die.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/56 "2005-12-03T05:56:40Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Was it, say…10 % of your posting history? 🙂

Have you been reading the board that shall not be named? o\_O

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/57 "2005-12-03T05:56:21Z")

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Wow, there’s so much _love_ here in the Pit!

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/58 "2005-12-03T05:57:29Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> Look, I’m going to let the cat out of the bag right here - the whole OP was hyperbole, an airing of frustration at our infuriating customers. I think the worst “revenge type” thing I’ve done to someone’s coffee is using milk that’s been sitting around a while at room temperature, and that’s only because hew as a major dickhead and I wanted him to have a mediocre drink.
> 
> I thought more peopel would see the humor in this and commiserate, but I guess I was wrong.

This is either backpedalling, or an admission of something I’m not allowed to accuse you of doing, but it rhymes with _bowling_.

I am not a moderator, but joke threads are not allowed in the Pit. I suggest you either own up to it and take your lumps, or ask to have this thread closed. Only a suggestion. You might also try to redirect the hostility you’ve received by continuing the “heh heh I was just kidding” lameness you’ve adopted, but considering your responses up to now have been in defense of the OP, that might not play to a non-retarded audience.

I am not a violent person, V, but as Andy Sipowicz might say, you deserve a beating just on general principle.

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**Author:** ![OleOneEye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f14d63/32.png) [@OleOneEye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OleOneEye)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/59 "2005-12-03T06:00:54Z")

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> [@PeterWiggen](#):
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> my mother is deathly allergic to caffeine

[hijack] Can one of the MDs on the board help a skeptic, here? Is there really such a thing as a caffeine allergy?[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-intentionally-ruined-your-coffee-beverage-and-you-dont-know-it/333868/60 "2005-12-03T06:05:13Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> This is either backpedalling, or an admission of something I’m not allowed to accuse you of doing, but it rhymes with _bowling_.

Jesus, it was supposed to be FUNNY, not make people angry. Trolling would be intentionally trying to piss people off, not make them laugh and cheer in agreement. I thought most people would respond with “Yeah!” and “Man, I’d love to do that to our asshole customers!” Leave it to the SDMB to play the “I’ll have you know my mother/grandmother/niece has that 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 allergy, and I’m **offended**!”

God, could **anyone** think this was literal and true rather than a hyperbolic rant? Someone that crazy and unchecked wouldn’t be able to function in society!

**Any Mod** , feel free to close this thread. I’ve given up all hope for the SDMB’s sense of humor.

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