Why I won't vote for Bush - An Essay from a Republican

And the real hole in the argument of the “original intent” crew is that they don’t mean it. Whenever an outcome doesn’t agree with their interpretation “original intenters” want to pass a federal law overriding that outcome, as in the case of Oregon’s Death With Dignity or Massachusetts gay marriage. Strong advocates of states rights, an “original intent,” think that Oregon voters shouldn’t be allowed to do as they please as long as they don’t bother other states.

The idea that every difference of opinion regarding “original intent” must be settled by a constitutional amendment is outlandish in my opinion.

This isn’t on topic so I’ll end here.

Which, of course, makes the whole “Criticizing our government is unAmerican!” claim fall like the flimsy house of cards it’s always been. :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley:

One more thing.

If you’re not wholeheartedly with me, you’re against me.

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Neither Jefferson nor Paine was at the Constitutional Convention. Hamilton was, but his influence on the final product was minimal – he left early, as soon as it was clear that his proposal for a centralized national state wasn’t going to fly.

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Regardless of ideology, this is an incredibly well-presented and well-written OP. And judging from the enormous amount of views it’s received in just three days, my guess is the link to this thread has been sent out in many emails.

I know I just did.
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I disagree, John. We may amend the constitution, but we don’t have to amend it. The fact that another avenue exists does not invalidate this avenue. I can take the bus to work, but that doesn’t mean I can’t drive my car.

The problem with ultra-strict adherence to original intent is that it assumes those who write laws can predict the future, which they can’t. Look at the First Amendment - nobody could have predicted internet message boards (which technically are neither “speech” nor “press”), yet it is quite logical and natural to extend the protection of speech to such forums, and quite unneccessary to further amend the Constitution. And I notice that right-wingers are quite content to abandon the notion when it favors their views. After all, one could argue that the Second Amendment only protects the right to bear 18th-Century arms, since more modern weapons hadn’t been invented yet. They couldn’t have intended to protect revolvers, and most certainly not automatic or semi-automatic weapons; they didn’t exist. But of course the same right-wingers are generally quite happy to apply a more modern interpretation in that case.

It’s funny how you obviously spent a lot of time on this, but the same idea could have been expressed in one sentence: “Bush is a fucking idiot.” Thanks.

You quoted the whole thing? All of it?

Listen very closely, if I were you. If you hear the pit-pat of tiny little hamster feet coming up behind you, in the dark…

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Wow. Has anyone ever been banned so quickly?

He opens the wrapping, finds within a bullet-proof vest, itself wrapped around two dead hamsters…"

“What is it, Clemenza? What does it mean?”

“Its a Cecilian message…”

As a fellow Republican I encourage you to send letters to GOP. I know I do. Attend meetings and voice your thoughts.
We are not alone.

I have just a couple of comments

IIRC, al Qaeda’s not entirely out of Afghanistan.

Undermined in more than one way of course. Don’t forget that sensitive sites have been looted literally down to their foundations and the “WMD components” sold on the black market and distributed throughout the world since the US took responsibility for them.

Blackclaw meet Dr. Jeffrey Record Visiting Research Professor to the US Army’s Strategic Studies Institute from the Air Force’s Air War College:
BOUNDING THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM
[The WoT] war began as a fight against the organization
that perpetrated the heinous attacks of September 11, 2001, but
soon became a much more ambitious enterprise, encompassing,
among other things, an invasion and occupation of Iraq. As part
of the war on terrorism, the United States has committed not only
to ridding the world of terrorism as a means of violence but also to
transforming Iraq into a prosperous democratic beacon for the rest
of the autocratically ruled and economically stagnant Middle East to
follow.
[The] war on terrorism—as opposed to the campaign against al-Qaeda—lacks strategic clarity, embraces unrealistic objectives, and may not be sustainable over the long haul. He calls for down-sizing the scope of the war on terrorism to reflect
concrete U.S. security interests and the limits of American military
power.

Note that these things were noticeable before we got over there.

Consider that this ostensibly conservative Administration has initiated a big-government, top-down, social engineering project for a foreign country. Note also that the Admin was resistant to the use of expert planning for the post-war period preferring instead to enter Iraq “without preconceived ideas”.
Given that this was a situation was literally a life and death situation and there are few if any events as serious as war, it seems that the level of due diligence would be commensurate with this gravity.

One day we realists will rise.

Consider also that a loss of international influence increases the costs of doing business in the world. Influence is important because it has practical impacts.

Don’t forget the nuclear threat from Pakistan’s Father of the Islamic Bomb’s efforts to spread nuclear technologies.

One Country
One Party
GOP

I’m out of my league in here but I can say this about the OP without looking too stupid:

I’m more offended by television commercials pertaining to four-hour erections than I ever will be by a “wardrobe malfunction” during a sporting event. A boob can be explained to a child, erections should not have to be.

I can’t speak for “they”, but if you can find a quote from me somewhere that substantiates your arguement, then I’ll be glad to discuss it. Otherwise, that’s just a strawman.

On that I can agree. :slight_smile:

I doubt that I could find a cite that shows that you propose actions that are counter to a position of “original intent counts most.” However, you are not a national political leader as far as I know so whether or not you personally advocate something is immaterial. The “they” in my post are those people who actually have the authority to enforce laws or enact new ones and the power and influence to get others to help them in those operations.

There are examples of dedicated “states rights” advocates turning around and trying to negate states’ rights as in the Oregon example or a proposed constitutional amendement foreclosing a state’s right to determine itw own laws regarding marriage.

Sorry John, but you and I are not small potatos, we are miniscule potatos in national decisions as to the importance of original intent in national affairs when such original intent runs counter to the prevailing ideology of the big potatos.

So, We can pass it around with that name and email? Is that correct? You might be sorry about having that email spread around so widely.

Many analysts believe Bush’s recent economic record will be his greatest asset going into the next election. The US economy has been expanding steadily since the beginning of 2002 and for nearly a year America has seen its economy improve at its fastest sustained rate since 1984, accompanied with only moderate inflation. The GDP increased an average of 3% each quarter in 2002, and 4.2% in 2003. This has caused healthy developments in various sectors, including stock market growth and high retail sales. Although the total number of jobs gained or lost throughout Bush’s term is highly controversial, the unemployment rate currently stands at a below-average 5.6%. This year’s economic boom has created up to 1.5 million jobs. The current strength of the American economy is impressive considering various strains the administration has been under due to the 2000 recession and concurrent accounting scandals, exacerbated by the September 11th terrorist attacks. Some attribute this success to the series of extensive tax cuts that were passed between the beginning of 2001 and mid-2003. The weak link in this is of course the deficit, currently at more than 5% of America’s total GDP. Although there are no plans for a balanced budget, the Republican Party continues to assure its detractors that it plans on containing the problem. The success of that initiative depends on how many of Bush’s recent budget cuts are approved, if significant progress is made towards partially privatizing social security, and especially, if recent economic growth spurs increases in tax revenues. Irregardless, many analysts predict that if the economy remains strong up to November, then the Republicans will be difficult to defeat.

The Dow has lost over 8% since Bush took office, and nearly 3.5% this year alone. I don’t see how you can say the stock market is enjoying healthy growth under Bush. That it is above the lows of the 2001 recession is like the guy getting hit with a hammer; it feels good when it stops, but he’s still bruised and bloody.

TokyoTakarazuka thanks for that encouraging speech, but I must question whether your economic snapshot is actually grounded on accurate information.

The current recovery consists overwhelmingly of corporate profits (50% increase), not wage growth (0.8%), and there is still no wage pressure to even things out on ether side of the corporate barrier. Less money in the hands of consumers (and higher interests/restrictions on loans) necessarily slows consumer spending, which in turns restrains growth.

I don’t think the unemployment rate you quote is an absolute number, rather it is relative. The current unemployment figure of 5.6% is due to discouraged job seekers who have left the market, lowering participation rate to well below what it was in 2001. If participation rate had remained constant, as it should, the present unemployment rate would read more like 7.3% in more absolute terms – the 5.6% figure strikes me as artificial by comparison. So there aren’t very good news there (at least up until June data).

Jobs in manufacturing sector fell. The average compensated work week shortened in June. The unemployment rate has not dropped. The economy has lost well over 1 million jobs since Bush took office. After the poor June data came out, analysts revised downwards the figures for April and May. Durable goods orders fell in May for the second consecutive month, by -1.8% (estimates put the June rate at 1.5%, positive but still not accounting for the previous loss). Vehicle sales in June were 15.4 million, compared to 17.8 million in May – another sharp fall. Several large chain retail stores like Wal-Mart and target warned in advance that June performance would be weak. Colossal deficits have resulted in a number of necessary interest hikes that will dampen economic growth (the question is not if, but how significantly). The growing deficits are largely the results of strategies like the highly irresponsible Bush tax cuts and international adventuring. The future of health care is not looking very bright. Oil remains expensive.

Good “news” include robust consumer confidence and the weak dollar, which helps bring business to the US (Caterpillar, for example, has sold a record number of tractors), but I would say the good are outnumbered by the bad at the moment.

I would question any analyst who claims that Bush’s “recent economic record will be his greatest asset going into the next election”. Maybe to the propagandaphagi it will magically register as a great asset, and I don’t deny there are a lot of propagandaphagi, but it would take a pretty uninformed analyst to make a rosy prediction based on current data, which is decidedly not rosy (though I wouldn’t say it is catastrophic either).

Yeah I know. Perhaps I’m underestimating the number of folks that will want to contact me, but in my past experience as a webmaster I find few people are willing to actually take the time to write to someone they don’t know. I expect I’ll get a few hatemails and a few “right ons!” but the dominance of email trying to sell me Viagra will continue.

Then keep in mind that an erection lasting more than four hours does not necessarily require “immediate medical attention”. In some circles, its considered passing the audition.