# Why I would vote for Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 27, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398 "2016-01-27T19:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/41 "2016-01-29T23:28:52Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That is as easily as delusional as any Trump supporter you imagine. Get a grip on reality, he is speaking and connecting with actual people. The people cheering aren’t all doing it ironically. Ignore this at your peril. Not the first time, nor the last time, that it will happen. Sometimes reality is too weird to believe. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/42 "2016-01-29T23:49:27Z")
Not surprising that huge government supporters dislike someone like The Donald. It upsets the corrupt status quo. [Donald Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar and Right - POLITICO Magazine](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572) ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/43 "2016-01-30T00:16:27Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Not surprising that huge government supporters dislike someone like The Donald. It upsets the corrupt status quo. [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572) I love the way the writer first says > [@](#): > > Apart from his line about Mexican rapists early in the campaign, Trump hasn’t said anything especially shocking about immigration. And a few short lines afterwards writes > [@](#): > > Truth Is Not Only A Defense, It’s Thrilling So… like the Donald, the writer seems to think that the truth isn’t troubled when widespread allegations are made. He also makes the strange argument that the Donald was the only one to see that > [@](#): > > If you live in an affluent ZIP code, it’s hard to see a downside to mass low-wage immigration. Your kids don’t go to public school. You don’t take the bus or use the emergency room for health care. Really? You think the Donald cares about these issues? You don’t think that someone who viciously defends the only important thing int the world (THE DONALD) actually would use this line of argument solely to bring someone into his fold? Tucker Carlson seems to be one of those writers who see some points that resemble thoughts they have had all along and rationalize everything else to fall into line. And will act very, very surprised when the Donald bites their hand. I sincerely hope that people veer off from these lines of thought. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/44 "2016-01-30T00:56:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Not surprising that huge government supporters dislike someone like The Donald. It upsets the corrupt status quo. [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572) Disliking Trump upsets the “corrupt status quo”? Well, I’ll ramp up on that, as stern duty demands. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/45 "2016-01-30T21:41:24Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > I believe I read it on CNN, but I’m having a hard time tracking it down. The polls I’ve been able to find thus far only indicate “[high school and below](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/donald-trumps-surge-is-heavily-reliant-on-less-educated-americans-heres-why/),” though those numbers are indeed telling. I’ll keep looking. In recent times, the democrats have been the party of the less educated, as per studies done by[pew research.](http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/party-identification-trends-1992-2014/#education). That would be impressive if Trump was able to make such significant headway into what has in recent years been a largely democratic leaning demographic. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/46 "2016-01-30T22:15:06Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > In recent times, the democrats have been the party of the less educated, as per studies done by[pew research.](http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/party-identification-trends-1992-2014/#education). That would be impressive if Trump was able to make such significant headway into what has in recent years been a largely democratic leaning demographic. The slant among the less educated, as your own cite shows, is only 47-37. The same page shows the advantage to Democrats among college graduates as 52-40, and among post-graduates as a whopping 56-36. The TL;DR summary of that page is that almost all groups lean Democratic except White evangelicals and Mormons. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/47 "2016-01-30T23:35:22Z")
> [@](#): > > …except White evangelicals and Mormons. Did you guys hear about how Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum say that Romney is a Muslim? Read that somewhere, no idea how these rumors get started… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/48 "2016-01-31T02:15:29Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > The slant among the less educated, as your own cite shows, is only 47-37. The same page shows the advantage to Democrats among college graduates as 52-40, and among post-graduates as a whopping 56-36. The TL;DR summary of that page is that almost all groups lean Democratic except White evangelicals and Mormons. It’s as if you are arguing against me, yet also supporting my argument. If Trump’s support is overwhelmingly from less than college educated people then it would be more likely than not that his support is coming from certain Democrats. Of course this is not a certainty, but if one were to speculate it would seem the odds must favor Trump having strong support from former democrats - given the general and consistent trend in that demographic in recent years. I myself don’t really like to speculate, I like data, but I do not know where to find such data and the poster asserting that Trump’s support is from the uneducated has not been able to find any data directly supporting that assertion either. Most analysis (and the pew research is consistent with this) maintains that Democrats are heavily favored by the wealthy and educated as well as those on the lower end of the education and socioeconomic spectrum. The democrats are also heavily favored by minorities and women. The republicans have less support overall, but are strongest with middle income voters. I find it strange the handwringing over the education level of Trump supporters when that demographic has so heavily been a part of the democrat’s base for so long. ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/49 "2016-01-31T20:33:37Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Trump reminds me a lot of George W Bush, but without the sense of restraint. Both fancied themselves as big picture guys who could leave the details to others. Yeah, I think we’d learn more about what a Trump presidency would look like from his eventual VP pick than from listening to Trump. Dick Cheney defined Bush’s presidency. I think that Trump would similarly pick a running mate to “manage” things for him. ETA: At the same time, Trump would probably try to be surer than Bush was that his VP was aware of how he wanted things managed. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/50 "2016-02-01T18:42:26Z")
Is Trump v. Sanders the only way Sanders can win the general? ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/51 "2016-02-01T18:46:42Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Is Trump v. Sanders the only way Sanders can win the general? Cruz v. Sanders would be an interesting match up. Even many republicans don’t like Cruz much… ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/52 "2016-02-01T20:03:30Z")
It’s not like the rest of the Republican candidates are any less xenophobic, irrational, theocratic, chickenshit, selfish, and dishonest than Trump is. They’re just too boring to seize the spotlight from him. If Sanders wins the nomination - still a longshot - then the calculus for preferring the Democrat to the Republican remains the same. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/53 "2016-02-01T20:41:41Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Is Trump v. Sanders the only way Sanders can win the general? Well, that or the Rapture. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/54 "2016-02-01T21:31:26Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, that or the Rapture. Not a chance. If the Rapture occurs I’m voting for the most Evangelical candidate I can because goddamm they’re right. Can we get Kim Davis as VP? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/55 "2016-02-01T21:36:32Z")
AIUI, there won’t _be_ any evangelical candidates left to vote for. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398/56 "2016-03-03T22:10:05Z")
Here’s another reason I would vote for Trump - the direction the leadership has allowed the Party to go? If he is pissing them off he must be doing something right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-i-would-vote-for-trump/744398.md?page=2)