# Why if you disagree with Obama and his policies some label you as a racist? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 11, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918 "2011-09-11T05:24:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/261 "2011-09-14T14:27:29Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Seeing how liberals are quite critical of Obama, #1 is hardly true. Of course it’s true - read the OP. > [@](#): > > And seeing how you have never personally experienced #2, I wonder how you came up with that one. Because, as I have said elsewhere, a certain kind of liberal, when he has lost the argument, makes it personal, either with accusations of racism or as you have done. It’s a gesture of surrender, and thus often useful in a debate. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/262 "2011-09-14T16:59:27Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because, as I have said elsewhere, a certain kind of liberal, when he has lost the argument, makes it personal, either with accusations of racism or as you have done. I _hate_ those guys. Almost as dearly as that certain kind of racist who, their racism exposed, crow that the mention of racism automatically hands them a rhetorical victory. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/263 "2011-09-14T17:35:32Z")
Accusations of racism are not sufficient to establish its presence. Except in the mind of complete idiots, of which the left has no shortage. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/264 "2011-09-14T17:51:44Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Accusations of racism are not sufficient to establish its presence. Except in the mind of complete idiots, of which the left has no shortage. > > Regards, > Shodan The Tea Party certainly isn’t completely racist. However there are plenty in it: [ > [@NYT](#): > > So what do Tea Partiers have in common? They are overwhelmingly white, but even compared to other white Republicans, they had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president, and they still do. ]([http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html)) No one is saying that \*you \*are a racist, Shodan. It just so happens that an awful lot of people who agree with you are. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/265 "2011-09-14T18:27:52Z")
There is no way a liberal can lose an argument to a righty. That is unless you believe in a plutocracy, then their arguments are fit. I do not see a bunch of people calling all rightys racists. But when the rightys lose an argument, they straight to that nonsense. I suppose if we read about a thousand threads on Obama, we could find a hint that would make a righty happy and think he has proved something. But it would take a lot of work. But the fact is racists live in the Republican party and are a loud and serious part of the tea baggers. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/266 "2011-09-14T23:31:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Nobody who wasn’t born yesterday can possibly expect Republicans to rein in spending either, and I would expect these farsighted folks you’re talking about to realize that more than anyone. Every Republican that believes that can start looking for a new job. There is simply no way we can continue to spend more than is taken in. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Seriously, dude, give it up. You’re throwing out nuttier and nuttier claims because you don’t want to admit something that quite literally everyone in this thread knows: that the Democratic win in 2008 had nothing to do with spending or the debt. There’s nothing nutty about people demanding financial responsibility from their representatives. Nutty would be to ask them to do otherwise. Yesterday’s win in New York’s deeply held Democratic district demonstrates the dissatisfaction of Democrats as well. Seriously, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/267 "2011-09-15T03:11:45Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > There’s nothing nutty about people demanding financial responsibility from their representatives. Nutty would be to ask them to do otherwise. Yesterday’s win in New York’s deeply held Democratic district demonstrates the dissatisfaction of Democrats as well. Yes… with Obama’s perceived strategy on Israel and the New York gay marriage bill. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/268 "2011-09-19T01:29:29Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > > [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > > > N/m. Saw the moderation. > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > You didn’t see lefties calling Bush a socialist, so this is a pretty pathetic attempt at equivalency. > > As I said in my “reason for edit”. I’m done. Argue with yourself. Or your strawman of my position. I don’t care. As I said, I’m done. I’m not going to be banned over this question. :snicker: Who called the ban-hammer correctly, here? He didn’t even make it a week from his post… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/269 "2011-09-19T01:36:55Z")
Gloating is bad karma. For whatsoever shall go around, verily, shall it come around. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918/270 "2011-09-19T01:56:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Gloating is bad karma. For whatsoever shall go around, verily, shall it come around. I don’t believe in “Karma”, any more than I believe in “God”. I don’t give a shit about either. I shall gloat to my heart’s content… 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-if-you-disagree-with-obama-and-his-policies-some-label-you-as-a-racist/595918.md?page=13)