# Why is \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ famous?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 17, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566 "2004-04-17T21:13:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/61 "2004-04-20T11:02:52Z")

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> While we’re on the English ones, what about the Lord Brocket twat from the Celebrity Jungle thing? who the hell is he?

Brocket was convicted of conspiracy to defraud over £4.5 million by claiming his fleet of classic cars were stolen, when he “stole” them himself.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/62 "2004-04-20T11:27:20Z")

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Great. So being a convicted fraudster qualifies you as a celebrity?

I wish I had a big pair of tits. then I too could be on TV.  
While were at it, that Kate Lawler bint what won Big Brother and then presented the C4 breakfast show seems to have gladly disappeared into obscurity. Never has the paul seen such inept uninformed presenting in all his years of watching TV.

And don’t get me started on that Jade Goody mang they still keep going on about.

_your time is up!_

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/63 "2004-04-20T11:49:45Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> **Tobey Maguire.** Can’t act, has the personality of a turnip, and most of all he’s U-G-L-Y. And not even the photogenic type of ugly, like Fred Gwynne (who was a _great_ actor!) When I first saw him in _The Ice Storm_ I thought, “Well, there’s a face I’ll never see on film again.” Now he’s Spiderman. WTF??

Tobey Maguire wasn’t in The Ice Storm. You must have meant Elijah Wood. “Now he’s Frodo WTF?”

I think he’s a fine actor. Some people just don’t get it when the artist doesn’t club them in the head.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/64 "2004-04-20T12:36:51Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> Tobey Maguire wasn’t in The Ice Storm. You must have meant Elijah Wood. “Now he’s Frodo WTF?”
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> I think he’s a fine actor. Some people just don’t get it when the artist doesn’t club them in the head.

Tobey Maguire was in _The Ice Storm_: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119349/fullcredits](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119349/fullcredits)

Remember the bit at the very beginning where he’s sitting on the train and talks about the Fantastic Four?

And I’m rather fond of him myself.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/65 "2004-04-20T12:58:26Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> I wish I had a big pair of tits. then I too could be on TV.

That would be a great title for a children’s book.

Re: the Spice Girls- I liked what Weekend Update on Saturday Night Live said about them when they were hot. "The Spice Girls are auditioning new back-up singers this week, begging the question ‘why does a group of five girls, none of whom play their own instruments, need back-up singers?’

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/66 "2004-04-20T13:10:41Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> How could I forget to include [Cojo](http://et.tv.yahoo.com/about/bios/stevencojocaru/)? Other than going home nightly and furiously jabbing pins into Fab Five voodoo dolls for seriously eclipsing him, what exactly has this guy done? (Actually, a production of _Amadeus_ starring him as Salieri and Carson as Mozart might be interesting.)

I have got such a thing for Cojo, and I don’t know why. There is just something about him.

#1 on the list of “Rock Widows” is **Yoko Ono**. #1 on the list of “bizare rock relatives & widows” was **Shawna Love Wilson** , but she died recently.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/67 "2004-04-20T13:11:03Z")

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**I wish I had a big pair of tits. Then I too could be on TV**  
By Paul B. Serker  
_Simon & Schuster, 2004_

The new book for children of all ages. Available from [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) for the low price of £16.99, and at all good bookstores now. 😃

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/68 "2004-04-20T17:17:02Z")

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> [@Miss Mapp](#):
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> Tobey Maguire was in _The Ice Storm_: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119349/fullcredits](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119349/fullcredits)
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> Remember the bit at the very beginning where he’s sitting on the train and talks about the Fantastic Four?
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> And I’m rather fond of him myself.

Ah, I was so wrong. I actually never saw the movie, I just thought there was a mix up because I’ve heard people mix up Spiderman and Frodo before.

I didn’t like Spiderman, but Cider House Rules, Wonder Boys, and Seabiscuit are all swell movies and TM does well in them.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/69 "2004-04-20T18:20:31Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Anyone ever appearing on the [Match Game](http://www.chris-lambert.com/MG/MG.html)

Damn … beat me to it.

I’ll add anyone who’s ever appeared on the panel of [To Tell the Truth](http://www.chris-lambert.com/TRUTH/Truth70.html). Kitty Carlisle? Peggy Cass? Bill Cullen? Who were these people?

I suspect a lot of people who appeared on celebrity panel shows of the 1970s were Broadway actors that were unknown to most Baby Boomers and very young Gen-Xers, but relatively familiar for some reason among the older pre-Baby Boomer crowd.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/70 "2004-04-20T21:56:39Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> Damn … beat me to it.
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> I’ll add anyone who’s ever appeared on the panel of [To Tell the Truth](http://www.chris-lambert.com/TRUTH/Truth70.html). Kitty Carlisle? Peggy Cass? Bill Cullen? Who were these people?

Peggy Cass won a Tony in 1957 for “Auntie Mame”, Kitty Carlisle was a stage/film actress of the 1930’s (she’s in “Night at the Opera”) who was married to stage writer/director/producer Moss Hart, and Bill Cullen was a long-time game show host.

Any other questions?

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/71 "2004-04-20T23:08:19Z")

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David Hasselhoff. Whose idea was it to show us his hairy chest in Baywatch? And when did he decide he could sing?

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**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-________-famous/240566/72 "2004-04-21T02:47:58Z")

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Charlie Rose… dull, thick, and an awful interviewer. Yet he consistently scores the biggest names to appear on his show. What did I miss about his rise to fame?

Disagree about the Match Game crowd. elmwood is right about Broadway being the principal milieu from which they were drawn, yet they were often very witty & enjoyably out-of-control. Among those who were funny enough to deserve their seat:

Nipsey Russell  
Scoey Mitchell  
Fannie Flagg  
Charles Nelson Reilly  
Marcia Wallace  
Patti Deutsch

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