# Why is ANTENNATV no longer on ??!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 17, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568 "2017-09-17T20:12:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/1 "2017-09-17T20:12:50Z")
[http://wbinclassics.antennatv.tv/shows/](http://wbinclassics.antennatv.tv/shows/) I liked watching some of these old TV shows and now there is nothing this station . ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/2 "2017-09-17T20:30:35Z")
Maybe [your local station](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Antenna_TV_affiliates)dropped it. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/3 "2017-09-17T20:33:57Z")
I just checked - AntennaTV is still on in my area (currently showing “Mr. Belvedere” - urgh!). ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/4 "2017-09-17T20:42:34Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Maybe [your local station](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Antenna_TV_affiliates)dropped it. Thank you ! Massauchettes not the list but New Hampshire is and we do get their stations on TV . CRAP ! We use to get NH public TV and I liked that but that was taken off TV too. I was told the MA. public TV ask Comcast to take it off b/c people were sending NH donations and MA public TV was losing out. So I now have lost 3 stations , the station called MOVIES was taken off too and replace with something else . CRAP there getting to less and less to watch on TV with Comcast and it the only cable company in my city . ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/5 "2017-09-17T20:54:29Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > I just checked - AntennaTV is still on in my area (currently showing “Mr. Belvedere” - urgh!). I just checked it again and the TV guide is showing this " Local origination" I agree about Mr. Belvedere I never watch it . I get another station that has old movies and shows but they don’t have CC for the movies and shows I wanted to watch so I wasn’t able to watch it . You would think all stations would have CC today . :smack: ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/6 "2017-09-17T20:57:44Z")
Yeah, it’s possible your local affiliate dropped it. It’s on here in Tucson, KGUN-TV, channel 9.3. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/7 "2017-09-17T21:02:00Z")
spectrum did this soon after taking over from time warner with the chiller channel but they tried telling me it went off the air until I pointed out that they had the onscreen listing for it two weeks in advance … they alsos have channels you only get if your an old time warner customer and ones you get if your a new spectrum customer … ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/8 "2017-09-17T21:08:52Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Yeah, it’s possible your local affiliate dropped it. It’s on here in Tucson, KGUN-TV, channel 9.3. Then my Comcast bill should be less if this is the case , I have lost 3 stations that I like . My bill been going up and there are fewer shows to watch . :mad: ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/9 "2017-09-17T21:24:42Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > Then my Comcast bill should be less if this is the case , I have lost 3 stations that I like . My bill been going up and there are fewer shows to watch . :mad: It shouldn’t affect your Comcast bill, since it’s a digital subchannel of an over-the-air broadcast station. It’s the local station’s decision what to carry on their frequency and it affects people who get their TV using an antenna equally. Comcast carries the channel because the FCC requires them to carry your local stations. You’re not being charged extra for it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/10 "2017-09-17T23:30:07Z")
:shrugs: What is this website? Do they actually play the shows there or is this simply a TV guide for when shows air? I admit I’m dense. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/11 "2017-09-17T23:53:09Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > :shrugs: > > What is this website? Do they actually play the shows there or is this simply a TV guide for when shows air? > > I admit I’m dense. The website the OP linked to in the OP is the TV network’s website. It tells people what shows the network airs, which affiliates the network has, and what the current schedule is. The network itself is a TV network. TV networks have been in existence in their modern form since the 1940s. Antenna TV is a modern network created by the existence of digital subchannels: With digital TV, a single transmitter can broadcast multiple different channels at the same time. For example, in Missoula, Montana, the local NBC affiliate is KECI. KECI owns channel 13, and so the NBC station around here is channel 13.1. KECI is a MeTV affiliate, so MeTV is 13.2: Same frequency, different channel. Similarly, KECI is also a Movies! affiliate, Movies! being MeTV’s sister channel, so Movies! is 13.3. [More information than you probably want about digital subchannels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_subchannel) including information about “diginets”, or networks which only exist on those subchannels. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/12 "2017-09-18T00:54:01Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > :shrugs: > > What is this website? Do they actually play the shows there or is this simply a TV guide for when shows air? > > I admit I’m dense. Here’s the Wikipedia entry on Antenna TV. It’s owned by Tribune Broadcasting and headquartered in Chicago. > **[Antenna TV](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_TV)** > > Antenna TV is an American digital television network owned by Nexstar Media Group. The network's programming consists of classic television series, primarily sitcoms, from the 1950s to the 1990s. Antenna TV's programming and advertising operations are headquartered in the WGN-TV studios in Chicago. The network's operations are overseen by Sean Compton, who serves as the president of networks for Nexstar. > The network is available in many media markets via the digital subchannels of over-the-air t... ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/13 "2017-09-18T12:45:04Z")
Right now we’re getting _Burns and Allen_. That show still holds up! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/14 "2017-09-18T12:52:52Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Comcast carries the channel because the FCC requires them to carry your local stations. You’re not being charged extra for it. As far as I know, must-carry doesn’t apply to subchannels. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/15 "2017-09-18T13:16:00Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Right now we’re getting _Burns and Allen_. That show still holds up! I have to agree with you, I love watching Burns & Allen ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/16 "2017-09-18T13:55:31Z")
Mediacom still carries it where I am. I very rarely watch it though. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/17 "2017-09-18T14:44:57Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > As far as I know, must-carry doesn’t apply to subchannels. Correct - AT&T U-Verse makes it a point not to carry them, unless they carry one of the four major networks. In fact, some cities do not get The CW because it is on a subchannel. Also, I am under the impression that “Must Carry” does not apply if the station asks for payment from the cable company. There is quite a bit of chatter on the “official” U-Verse forum over a few cities (Columbus and Indianapolis come to mind) losing a CBS or NBC affiliate because of a contract dispute between the station and AT&T over how much AT&T should pay the station for the right to broadcast it. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/18 "2017-09-19T01:57:25Z")
OP, you may be able to find the shows you want to watch online. I’ve seen sites that stream old shows, and I’ve seen a lot of old shows on YouTube and the like. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/19 "2017-09-19T18:33:58Z")
Just a few days ago, WBIN which carried AntennaTV on a secondary channel (virtual channel 50.2?) shut down its own transmitter near Nashua NH. It now shares a transmitter in Sudbury, Mass., with WUTF, Boston’s Spanish-language UniMÁS/Telefutura affiliate. WUTF has its own secondary channels, so I believe WBIN broadcasts on only one channel now, virtual channel 50.1. I think that part of the day they broadcast Antenna TV content and part of the day other content. If WBIN isn’t part of the Comcast lineup in your area, you may still be able to watch it over-the-air with an inexpensive antenna. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-antennatv-no-longer-on/796568/20 "2017-09-19T18:44:22Z")
I should have mentioned that an antenna may also bring in NHPTV if you live close enough to their transmitter in southern NH. See a map of signal strength [here](http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=80&q=call%3dWENH-TV%26type%3dD).