# Why is BarnOwl a PMSing psychopath?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 4, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702 "2008-12-04T17:36:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/21 "2008-12-04T19:42:51Z")

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It was quite strange. At first I wondered what **Rigamarole** was on about, because I didn’t see any real issue. Then I went from this 😕 to this :eek: in about one second.

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**Author:** ![mshar253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@mshar253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mshar253)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/22 "2008-12-04T20:14:38Z")

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BarnFAIL?

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/23 "2008-12-04T20:24:27Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I do appreciate all the support and kind words, but I’d appreciate it if this thread could be discontinued?
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> Thanks
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> Bill

This thread isn’t about you, and I for one would like to see how it pans out. I, like the OP, want to know what the fuck that was all about. I hope this thread isn’t “discontinued” as I and many others want to discuss it.

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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/24 "2008-12-04T21:46:08Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> In all fairness to **BarnOwl** , I have to state that I, too, have had a couple of episodes right here on SDMB that I regret.
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> Shit happens and no one knows that better than me, believe me.
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> I do appreciate all the support and kind words, but I’d appreciate it if this thread could be discontinued?
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> Thanks
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> Bill

Leave it in. I apologized in another thread Quasi.

Did you find my emails?

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**Author:** ![janis\_and\_c0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janis_and_c0/32/21_2.png) [@janis\_and\_c0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janis_and_c0)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/25 "2008-12-04T21:47:51Z")

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I promised I would stay out of the pit on this issue. so I’m only going to add my well wishes to **Quasimodem** , for a good vacation, and no more drama!

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/26 "2008-12-04T22:02:08Z")

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> [@mshar253](#):
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> BarnFAIL?

Ya RLY.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/27 "2008-12-04T22:03:30Z")

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> [@OpalCat](#):
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> This thread isn’t about you, and I for one would like to see how it pans out. I, like the OP, want to know what the fuck that was all about. I hope this thread isn’t “discontinued” as I and many others want to discuss it.

It isn’t about you either. :dubious: It involved him, in that it was he BarnOwl went nuts at. I say we should respect his wishes, and leave the topic the fuck alone, but that is just me.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/28 "2008-12-04T22:07:43Z")

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> [@BarnOwl](#):
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> Leave it in. I apologized in another thread Quasi.

Dude, what happened? You always struck me as one of the more level-headed Dopers.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/29 "2008-12-04T22:15:18Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I can only imagine how **BarnOwl** deals with other mild, easily recognizable jokes:
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> Co-worker: “Hey, BarnOwl, how’s your Monday? Working hard or hardly working?”  
> BarnOwl: "What?!?! How dare you impugn my work ethic! This is slander! I’m going to report you to HR!  
> Co-worker: “Um, it was just a jo-”  
> BarnOwl: “Fuck you! I hope you die!”

I don’t know why, but if you read this in the voice of Stewie, it’s much more entertaining.

And, if nothing else, I’ve learned more about camera obscuras than I thought possible, so that’s pretty cool I guess.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/30 "2008-12-04T22:18:50Z")

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I really think we should just let those two settle it privately, between themselves. (And apparently olive branches etc. have been offered.) The injured party doesn’t want us taking up publicly for them. We should respect that.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/31 "2008-12-04T22:25:59Z")

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Since the thread is closed, I’ll post this here and apologize for being OTT:  
I believe the devise originally sought after might have been a lucigraph (AKA “a lucy”) – that’s the thing that illuminates a painting or drawing and projects it downwards (and upside down), like an overhead projector in reverse, for tracing & re-drawing. It sounds like an updated version of the camera lucida, but it doesn’t depend of POV, and there’s an actual image, not a virtual one.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/32 "2008-12-04T22:27:32Z")

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> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> I really think we should just let those two settle it privately, between themselves. (And apparently olive branches etc. have been offered.) The injured party doesn’t want us taking up publicly for them. We should respect that.

Like I said, it’s not just about one victim/target, it’s a community issue. For the same reason the state prosecutes crimes regardless of the victim’s opinion (the whole pop-culture notion of asking a victim if they want to “press charges” is largely mythical - the state decides to press charges. That only happens in minor cases where the officer has discretion on whether to arrest or not and leaves it up to the victim).

I’d still like to hear what **BarnOwl** has to say.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/33 "2008-12-04T22:27:41Z")

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> [@BarnOwl](#):
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> Did you find my emails?

Uh oh…

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/34 "2008-12-04T22:30:23Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> I’d still like to hear what **BarnOwl** has to say.

This isn’t a state, you’re not a prosecutor and **Barn Owl** doesn’t owe you or anyone else shit.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/35 "2008-12-04T22:33:04Z")

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There are a few posts that I, too, wish I could retract.

BarnOwl, hope you’re doing okay. That was a major overreaction which leads me to believe something else is going on. I don’t need details as it’s none of my business, but hope you’re doing okay.

Quasi, sorry to hear about your recent diagnoses. Have a wonderful vacation.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/36 "2008-12-04T22:33:23Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> This isn’t a state, you’re not a prosecutor and **Barn Owl** doesn’t owe you or anyone else shit.

True enough. But I pit him for his insane behavior and he could at least have the decency to own up to it.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/37 "2008-12-04T22:35:40Z")

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It was indeed an overreaction. It seems that he has apologized too.

For those of us who don’t understand, I urge you to at least try to understand this: The medicines that are given to try to help cure us often impact our personalities pretty heavily. It has been stated that BarnOwl is being treated for Cancer. I have not had to endure that - thank whatever gods there are - so I can’t know what it is like. But I have had some treatments this past year and I know that there have been plenty of days when I wasn’t acting like myself, sometimes from medicine, sometimes just from the fact that chronic pain is very debilitating. I am thankful that the people who interacted with me cared about me enough to recognize it was a fluke of my condition.

It was an odd thing, but perhaps it was something from his treatment speaking and not him. Perhaps we can give him a pass on this one.

At least, that is how I’m going to view it until I have evidence to the contrary.

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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/38 "2008-12-04T22:38:06Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Dude, what happened? You always struck me as one of the  
> more level-headed Dopers.

The comment came out of left field. By now,I’ll bet Quasi has probably found my emails.

The first celebrated his bubbling over of cheer that the C. lucida would enable him to rejoin  
the world of art. His post was so touching, so poignant, I got a lump in my throat.

I followed that first email later when I got a nice deal from the C. Lucida vendor,  
that Quasi and I had been “talking” about. I asked the guy if Quasi could get in on the deal, too,  
because he was thinking seriously of buying the very same model. The vendor said yes.

So, I emailed Quasi a second time, explained the whole deal and even left my phone number if  
he needed any help.

Never a word back until the viagra thing.

Okay, so I’m senile, PMS-ing, rabid, and so on.

I apologize again, Quasi. If you want to get that deal, just call the man. The number’s in the email and at the web address.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/39 "2008-12-04T22:40:32Z")

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Quasi from the airport. Don’t have much time, but please tell BarnOwl I am VERY happy that we’re buds again. I’ll write more when I get to Rothenburg…  
WHOOOO-HOOOOO

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/40 "2008-12-04T22:42:51Z")

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BarnOwl!!! LOVE YA BUDDY!!! GOTTA RUN\> Ple ase re-send e-mails. Newver got themQ

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