# Why is BarnOwl a PMSing psychopath? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702 "2008-12-04T17:36:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/41 "2008-12-04T22:44:21Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > True enough. But I pit him for his insane behavior and he could at least have the decency to own up to it. You Pit him for an honest mistake, he’s already apologized, and now you want _him_ to own up to it!!! What did I miss? ETA: just saw his post. I’m not sure if that changes anything for you. It doesn’t for me. I still think **Barn Owl** just made an honest mistake. Happens every day to people everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/42 "2008-12-04T22:46:01Z")
Well, what I came in to say **Khadaji** just said… and probably much better. I don’t remember **BarnOwl** being anything unpleasant before and it sure sounds like he was just having a bad time of it for reasons we’re not required to know. A number of us, **BarnOwl** included, have made some effort to let friend **Quasimodem** know not to take it personal, that it was something else talking entirely. I think he’s okay with that so, strange as it was, it would appear everyone’s back on solid ground now. ETA: Woah, a whole slew of posts snuck in there. Happy travels, Quasi, and the rest of y’all have a nice weekend. ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/43 "2008-12-04T22:46:16Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Quasi from the airport. Don’t have much time, but please tell BarnOwl I am VERY happy that we’re buds again. I’ll write more when I get to Rothenburg… > WHOOOO-HOOOOO If ypu are going to use your credit card, I advise you to get Les to talk you through it. I know from nothing about PayPal and only with Les’s help, was I able to use my Visa. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/44 "2008-12-04T22:50:07Z")
Well. Seems that someone’s penis is getting engorged after all. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/45 "2008-12-04T22:52:09Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > You Pit him for an honest mistake, he’s already apologized, and now you want _him_ to own up to it!!! He didn’t apologize (publicly) until after I had made that post. By the way, an “honest mistake” is a little different than “batshit tirade”, but whatever, his willingness to do so shows he’s not _completely_ out of it, and that’s all I really wanted from this. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/46 "2008-12-04T22:52:11Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well. Seems that someone’s penis is getting engorged after all. Damn it! That’s the only reason I opened this thread! ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/47 "2008-12-04T22:53:37Z")
Okay, Rigamarole, I’ll admit it was insane behavior. I own up to it. And I am very sorry for it. But since I’m fucking nuts, how can you believe anything I say :D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/48 "2008-12-04T22:55:05Z")
> [@BarnOwl](#): > > Okay, Rigamarole, I’ll admit it was insane behavior. I own up to it. > And I am very sorry for it. > > But since I’m fucking nuts, how can you believe anything I say :D:D:D Dunno. Could always just be the medicine talking, now I’ll never know… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/49 "2008-12-04T22:59:16Z")
Group hug! ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/50 "2008-12-04T23:04:03Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well. Seems that someone’s penis is getting engorged after all. So what the hell? You the penis monitor now? ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/51 "2008-12-04T23:04:38Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Group hug! TY Jack. And my thanks to everyone who posted here. I did a terrible thing. I hope you all forgive me. ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/52 "2008-12-04T23:05:45Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > So what the hell? You the penis monitor now? What. You want the job? ---
**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/53 "2008-12-04T23:06:43Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > He didn’t apologize (publicly) until after I had made that post. By the way, an “honest mistake” is a little different than “batshit tirade”, but whatever, his willingness to do so shows he’s not _completely_ out of it, and that’s all I really wanted from this. Actually he apologized publicly earlier, just not in this particular thread. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10531456&postcount=64](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10531456&postcount=64) ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/54 "2008-12-04T23:38:34Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > This isn’t a state, you’re not a prosecutor and **Barn Owl** doesn’t owe you or anyone else shit. No, but this is a community and when we see something that bothers us we should be allowed to both talk about it and ask questions. I for one am very glad that we got to see the resolution to this and didn’t have it just get shushed down, because the result is that I see that BarnOwl was having some sort of bad day possibly related to medication or lack of sleep or whatever and that he’s since realized that Quasi was joking and has apologized, etc. Had I not seen that, I would just be sitting here still thinking “wow, that guy BarnOwl is a total nutjob” and would probably skip future posts by him etc etc etc. As it is the situation is resolved and in the open. I think things like that are important in a community. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/55 "2008-12-04T23:45:39Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > No, but this is a community and when we see something that bothers us we should be allowed to both talk about it and ask questions. I for one am very glad that we got to see the resolution to this and didn’t have it just get shushed down, because the result is that I see that BarnOwl was having some sort of bad day possibly related to medication or lack of sleep or whatever and that he’s since realized that Quasi was joking and has apologized, etc. Had I not seen that, I would just be sitting here still thinking “wow, that guy BarnOwl is a total nutjob” and would probably skip future posts by him etc etc etc. As it is the situation is resolved and in the open. I think things like that are important in a community. While that may be true, it becomes not the community’s business if the injured party requests them to back off. We don’t have a right to demand a person publicly apologize to another, **even if they caused injury publicly**. If both parties would rather settle it privately, THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS AND SOCIETY SHOULD BACK OFF! ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/56 "2008-12-04T23:50:09Z")
No, I’m glad this came out. I went bat shit. After regaining my senses, I thought it would be impossible to face you all. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/57 "2008-12-04T23:51:05Z")
I never demanded an apology and I don’t think that is community business. I disagree, however, that we shouldn’t be allowed to discuss a situation that happened publicly, especially if it caused a reaction from many people. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/58 "2008-12-04T23:52:40Z")
You know, I can turn this group hug around right now! ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/59 "2008-12-04T23:59:00Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > I never demanded an apology and I don’t think that is community business. I disagree, however, that we shouldn’t be allowed to discuss a situation that happened publicly, especially if it caused a reaction from many people. Excepting the fact that it is causing distress to the injured party, which was my point. This time, things weren’t mucked up because the community was asking what was going on, but that doesn’t mean that it always will turn out ok. Sometimes it is better to let the people settle things themselves, then ask after a time, “So, what was up with that, if you care to explain?”. Get what I’m saying? ETA: You didn’t demand a public apology, but **Rigamarole** was. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-barnowl-a-pmsing-psychopath/475702/60 "2008-12-05T00:00:09Z")
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