# Why is Boehner even trying this lawsuit thing?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 8, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651 "2014-07-08T17:12:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/21 "2014-07-11T14:10:30Z")

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Yeah, good luck with that. 😉

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/22 "2014-10-27T20:58:44Z")

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And now, four months later, after all that fuss, [Boehner still has not filed suit](http://www.salon.com/2014/10/27/boehners_lame_stunt_fizzles_the_plan_to_sue_obama_has_gone_predictably_nowhere/).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/23 "2014-10-28T12:03:33Z")

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But there’s still time for him to force Obama to implement all of Obamacare in 2014. 😉

Of course, Boehner’s simply hoping people will forget about his promise for this suit, the way he hopes they forget about his promise of a Republican replacement bill.

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/24 "2014-10-28T16:57:48Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> In his [op-ed](http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/06/opinion/boehner-obama-lawsuit/index.html), Boenher says:
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> If it’s **legislation,** it can’t pass without the Senate’s approval, and the President can veto it, and no way is there a 2/3 majority in both houses for such a thing, nor will there be after the midterms. The suit will never be filed if it takes legislation to authorize it. Boehner must know all this.

It’s an election year and they need some red meat to get the base riled up.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/25 "2014-10-28T17:11:31Z")

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Then, as now, it is utterly hilarious that in the whole of Boehner’s op-ed for CNN, he could only muster one specific claim about anything Obama had done that was unconstitutional, something that the Supreme Court had already decided.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/26 "2014-10-28T20:43:29Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And now, four months later, after all that fuss, [Boehner still has not filed suit](http://www.salon.com/2014/10/27/boehners_lame_stunt_fizzles_the_plan_to_sue_obama_has_gone_predictably_nowhere/).

Not quite as long as Obama’s vow to shut down Gitmo…5 years and counting…

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/27 "2014-10-28T20:46:26Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Not quite as long as Obama’s vow to shut down Gitmo…5 years and counting…

To be fair, Obama wanted to close Gitmo and Congress used the power of the purse strings to keep it open. It’s not like he has a choice in the matter.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/28 "2014-10-29T02:33:20Z")

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Not to mention the fact that this is not a thread about gitmo…

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/29 "2014-10-29T02:39:15Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Not quite as long as Obama’s vow to shut down Gitmo…5 years and counting…

I wonder how anyone can even think about making that comparison. I mean, do you really think being stopped from doing something by another group, is the same as someone not doing something they’re free to do?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/30 "2014-10-30T18:06:56Z")

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Apparently the problem is, [Boehner can’t find a lawyer who will take the case](http://www.salon.com/2014/10/30/boehners_lawsuit_fiasco_why_his_lame_obamacare_gambit_is_a_humiliating_failure/).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-boehner-even-trying-this-lawsuit-thing/692651/31 "2014-11-21T19:46:49Z")

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[Well, they finally filed the lawsuit.](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-republicans-file-obamacare-lawsuit/ar-BBf34go?ocid=iehp)

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> The suit accuses the administration of acting without congressional authority in delaying the employer mandate provision of the Affordable Care Act. It also challenges the administration’s giveaway of $175 billion to insurance companies under the law because the funds weren’t explicitly appropriated by Congress.
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> The move comes just hours after the president announced that he was taking executive action to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation, a step that Republicans also deem worthy of legal recourse because of his decision to bypass Congress. The GOP lawsuit does not, however, include immigration.

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