# Why is Colibri a Moderator? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 8, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489 "2007-09-08T20:16:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jimmycat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimmycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmycat)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/1 "2007-09-08T20:16:03Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] Balthisar, you’ve been around long enough to know better than this. Regardless of how provocative or insulting jimmycat was being.. [/QUOTE] Colbri, if you would have read _and understood_ what I was saying in the **Limits of use of force in self-defense?** thread, then I think you wouldn’t have said what you said. I have been working in the legal field on the prosecution side of criminal acts for many, many years. Everything I have written, I have seen first hand. The thing that MOST angers me is those people (..and there is certainly a stereotype of them) that look for a pay day anytime they think they have been wronged. Look at the Seattle protests for example. You will find a large percentge wish to peacefully protest. But…there is another segment that brings video cameras and incite riots. They turn the video camera on after police react and record HALF of what happened to use in court against THE MAN. They’ll bring bottles of urine, signs with spikes, and their own medics (individuals assigned to “treat” those of their ilk that get peppersprayed by police). They come to a protest looking for a fight. These people are the extreme. There are however, shades of grey in between. Those that think when they walk into establishments that THEY are king and if ANYONE threatens that, they wil sue them. This is EXACTLY the type of person that Balthisar portrayed himself to be. He proclaimed that if a security guard _attempted_ to accuse him of theft, he would use his karate skills against him. WTF? I mean really? Case in point, try going to a Fry’s Electronics store and walking out without anyone checking your receipt. YOU CAN’T. You have to stand in line while an employee with a highlighter checks the bags and receipts of everyone leaving the store. The New Retail Security Survey has show US retailers losing in excess of $31 billion to theft. Who pays for this? The stores? Wrong! We do. And when Balthisar sues the store because they were trying to prevent theft, who pays for his lawsuit? The store? Wrong! We do. He called me a sheep because I didn’t stick it to the man and I played along by showing the guard my receipt. I don’t consider myself a sheep, I consider myself a responsible contributor. But…who is really to blame here? The store? Balthisar? Well, in my opinion, the general public that ALLOWS people liek Balthisar to operate. There is no general consensus that enough is enough. We are tired of people trying to “get paid,” we are tired of crime, we are tired of abuse of the system. “The system” can’t work when it is bogged down with meaningless BS. Why are they now manufactering bulletproof backpacks? Where are the parents of the kids that are bringing the guns to school? Perhaps if we weren’t spending billions on “the system” we could use that money for programs and resources to address other, more significant problems in our society. There is no money for schools, for the mentally ill, for law enforcement, for our streets, etc… So…you my friend, located in PANAMA, chastise me for blasting a person who is part of the problem and not part of the solution that is occuring in middle AMERICA. Why? What insight do you provide? I chose to take this thread to the court of public opinion rather then send you a PM because I felt like it would stir a good debate. I thought the design behind this website was to get to the TRUTH. How can we do that when a mod supports the person who has a PAID subscription vs a guest who is on his trial period? Is it about the money? ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/2 "2007-09-08T20:20:43Z")
\ Moved to the Pit. [quote] This is the place for all complaints and other **discussion regarding administration of the SDMB**. \ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/3 "2007-09-08T20:20:48Z")
Comments on and criticism of moderator actions belong in the Pit. Moved from GQ to the BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/4 "2007-09-08T20:21:40Z")
[QUOTE=Rico] \ Moved to the Pit. > [@](#): > > This is the place for all complaints and other **discussion regarding administration of the SDMB.** \ [/QUOTE] Why is **Rico** a moderator? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/5 "2007-09-08T20:21:51Z")
[QUOTE=jimmycat] Why? [/QUOTE] Because your comments were not appropriate to the forum. Period. He was NOT addressing the content of your posts, but rather the tone. If you’d read _and understood_ the forum rules posted in the stickies at the top of the index page, I think you would not have posted this. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/6 "2007-09-08T20:23:04Z")
Jesus, with all your coding abilities, why are **either** of you a moderator? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/7 "2007-09-08T20:32:18Z")
Can I get a link to the original, so I’ll know whose side to take and can make a decision whether **Colibri** _should_ be a moderator or not? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/8 "2007-09-08T20:33:30Z")
> **[Limits of use of force in self-defense?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=435232)** > > I was reading a Slashdot thread about an incident debated in this thread. One of the commenters had this to say: It’s clear that the poster thinks he was well within his rights to do so. But a UK responder said that he’d have been charged with... ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/9 "2007-09-08T20:33:37Z")
[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting] Can I get a link to the original, so I’ll know whose side to take and can make a decision whether **Colibri** _should_ be a moderator or not? [/QUOTE] I can’t think of any good reason why not. [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=435232) ---
**Author:** ![jimmycat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimmycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmycat)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/10 "2007-09-08T20:33:40Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Because your comments were not appropriate to the forum. Period. He was NOT addressing the content of your posts, but rather the tone. [/QUOTE] Contrary, his statement addressed the degree of provocation and insulting I was appearently being. If you re-read the thread, I Balthisar proclaimed himself to be an asshole, I merely agreed. Pravnik and I however, were having a discussion with tongue and cheek banter. IMO, Bathisar made it personal. [QUOTE=balthisar] This shows that you’re the fucking retard / asshole / whatever you want to think…QUOTE] Sounds like a personal attack to me. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/11 "2007-09-08T20:34:08Z")
Yeah, **Colibri** should actually be some kind of Minor Deity, or His Benevolent Highness, or maybe a Person Of Interest. Moderator as a title just doesn’t do him justice. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/12 "2007-09-08T20:34:12Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] > **[Limits of use of force in self-defense?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=435232)** > > I was reading a Slashdot thread about an incident debated in this thread. One of the commenters had this to say: It’s clear that the poster thinks he was well within his rights to do so. But a UK responder said that he’d have been charged with... [/QUOTE] OK, that’s it. I’m not posting in this thread any fucking more. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/13 "2007-09-08T20:36:53Z")
[QUOTE=jimmycat] Contrary, his statement addressed the degree of provocation and insulting I was appearently being. [/QUOTE] What do you think “tone” means, dipshit? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/14 "2007-09-08T20:37:28Z")
[QUOTE=jimmycat] The New Retail Security Survey has show US retailers losing in excess of $31 billion to theft. Who pays for this? The stores? Wrong! We do. And when Balthisar sues the store because they were trying to prevent theft, who pays for his lawsuit? The store? Wrong! We do. [/QUOTE] By this logic, since I am paying for it already, I would be a damn fool \*not \* to shoplift whenever I can. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/15 "2007-09-08T20:38:01Z")
[QUOTE=Stranger On A Train] Yeah, **Colibri** should actually be some kind of Minor Deity, or His Benevolent Highness, or maybe a Person Of Interest. Moderator as a title just doesn’t do him justice. Stranger [/QUOTE] When I’m done reading the thread, I’ll let you know my decision. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jimmycat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimmycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmycat)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/16 "2007-09-08T20:40:46Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] What do you think “tone” means, dipshit? [/QUOTE] Dipshit? Hmm…great retort. Many debates have been won with a well placed calling of someone, “dipshit.” I was referring to CONTENT, not TONE. For all I know, he could have been crying when he wrote his comment. ---
**Author:** ![jimmycat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimmycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmycat)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/17 "2007-09-08T20:43:31Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] By this logic, since I am paying for it already, I would be a damn fool \*not \* to shoplift whenever I can. [/QUOTE] Well..with that logic, we could lobby to become a communist state. We’ll all share the wealth then. Marx would be sooo proud! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/18 "2007-09-08T20:58:45Z")
[QUOTE=jimmycat] Well..with that logic, we could lobby to become a communist state. We’ll all share the wealth then. Marx would be sooo proud! [/QUOTE] You forgot the Nazis! That argument is much better with Nazis! ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/19 "2007-09-08T21:07:11Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] By this logic, since I am paying for it already, I would be a damn fool \*not \* to shoplift whenever I can. [/QUOTE] Exactly. Just like whenever someone tells me Jesus died for my sins I tell them I’m trying to get full value. No point having Jesus perish for some paltry peccadilloes ---
**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489/20 "2007-09-08T21:09:13Z")
[QUOTE=jimmycat] So…you my friend, located in PANAMA, chastise me for blasting a person who is part of the problem and not part of the solution that is occuring in middle AMERICA. Why? What insight do you provide? [/QUOTE] Not that I need to emphasize the stupidity of an ad hominem, but heck, [why](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain) [not](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone)? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-colibri-a-moderator/418489.md?page=2)