# Why is conservative media obsessed with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 21, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906 "2018-11-21T17:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/241 "2018-11-28T17:31:14Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I am not threatened by her and have no interest in convincing you to think less of her. She seems like a fairly intelligent young woman but with a few fringy and untested convictions. Your previous posts, IMO, contradict this claim. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/242 "2018-11-28T17:34:15Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Also, in case you didn’t notice, you’re hardly the only one who’s introduced Trump as a defense of AOC in this thread. It’s not a defense. Nothing AOC has done needs to be defended. It’s mocking the people who are so “concerned” about a couple minor verbal gaffes by AOC, but never mention the stupid and literally insane shit said every day by the idiot they support. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/243 "2018-11-28T17:44:36Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > It’s not a defense. Nothing AOC has done needs to be defended. It’s mocking the people who are so “concerned” about a couple minor verbal gaffes by AOC, but never mention the stupid and literally insane shit said every day by the idiot they support. So, you probably don’t even see you just did it again. Look through [my thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=857589) where I first brought her up here. It is chock full of Dems “concerned” about her gaffes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/244 "2018-11-28T17:46:45Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > So, you probably don’t even see you just did it again. Look through [my thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=857589) where I first brought her up here. It is chock full of Dems “concerned” about her gaffes. Oh you mean the thread where you dismissed her as a “Sanderista”? Dude, all you do is denigrate her. It’s pretty clear that you feel threatened by her. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/245 "2018-11-28T17:50:25Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Oh you mean the thread where you dismissed her as a “Sanderista”? Dude, all you do is denigrate her. It’s pretty clear that you feel threatened by her. That’s not a dismissal. She volunteered for his campaign. Do you think she’d be insulted by the term? And for god’s sake, just accept that I am not threatened by her. She can’t affect me in any meaningful way and I actually think she is kind of a cool character I would root for in a political drama movie even if I roll my eyes a couple times. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/246 "2018-11-28T17:56:48Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Ms. Ocasio-Cortez graduated _cum laude_ with a degree in economics and international relations. She founded a publishing firm at age 22, and has been active in non-profit organizations. Why did you need to dismiss her as a “bartender”? If she’d inherited a few million dollars from her father, she wouldn’t have needed to work as a bartender — is that your point? Non-profit organizations? Were they in her neighborhood? Was she a _Community Organizer_? ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/247 "2018-11-28T17:57:59Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > …I think we have a pretty good idea of what would happen if idiots got the idea to elect an idiot. In fact, I think we might have a political party that specializes in that. An idiot is an idiot, regardless of party. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/248 "2018-11-28T18:02:17Z")
> [@bump](#): > > An idiot is an idiot, regardless of party. I think you may have confused inexperience with idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/249 "2018-11-28T18:04:13Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > So, you probably don’t even see you just did it again. Look through [my thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=857589) where I first brought her up here. It is chock full of Dems “concerned” about her gaffes. I don’t have a problem with Dems concerned with her minor gaffes. I do have a problem with “Democrats” “concerned” about her gaffes. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/250 "2018-11-28T18:17:26Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I don’t have a problem with Dems concerned with her minor gaffes. I do have a problem with “Democrats” “concerned” about her gaffes. Uh huh. And would it be crazy for me to suspect that you think anyone with “concerns” isn’t really a “Democrat”. The fact is you directed your remark at someone who is not a Trump supporter and you’re not the only one who’s done similar in this thread. Look you can search their post history if you want to prove me wrong but one of the biggest haters in that linked thread, and in any other thread touching on Sanders, is dalej42 - a highly Dem partisan Sanders hater. Even super accommodating Dem DSeid expresses “concern” that AOC is expecting incumbents to bow down to her leadership. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/251 "2018-11-28T18:33:36Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Uh huh. And would it be crazy for me to suspect that you think anyone with “concerns” isn’t really a “Democrat”. Yes > [@](#): > > Look you can search their post history if you want to prove me wrong but one of the biggest haters in that linked thread, and in any other thread touching on Sanders, is dalej42 - a highly Dem partisan Sanders hater. I don’t remember saying anything in response to dalej42 > [@](#): > > Even super accommodating Dem DSeid expresses “concern” that AOC is expecting incumbents to bow down to her leadership. I also don’t remember saying anything to DSeid. Your description of his comments also don’t sound like concern about a minor verbal gaffe. Also, why in your quote is “concern” in quotes? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/252 "2018-11-28T18:34:46Z")
I don’t remember saying that you said anything to DSeid or dalej42. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/253 "2018-11-28T18:38:30Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I don’t remember saying that you said anything to DSeid or dalej42. OK, good talk. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/254 "2018-11-28T18:45:55Z")
Not really. Seems like you only poorly pretended to understand what I was saying. What you were saying was obvious, Trump supporters have no right to call her idiotic. But you ignored everything I said, it seems. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/255 "2018-11-28T19:16:15Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > … Even super accommodating Dem DSeid expresses “concern” that AOC is expecting incumbents to bow down to her leadership. In which thread? It sure was not this one. He did not come anywhere close to even hinting at an implication of a soupçon of anything at all like that in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/256 "2018-11-28T19:37:09Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > In which thread? It sure was not this one. He did not come anywhere close to even hinting at an implication of a soupçon of anything at all like that in this thread. I said the linked thread. > [@Sanderista primaries out 10-term Dem Congressman](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderista-primaries-out-10-term-dem-congressman/816850/256): > > I do suspect that she is going to find the going tough once she gets into the House. Somehow I don’t think the experienced members of the current progressive caucus will just fall into line behind her plans and bow to her as leader, which is really what that bit comes off as what she is expecting to happen. > > And IF she does advocate for holding the rest of the party, including other progressives who do not sign on as members her hoped for “sub-caucus”, hostage … give us what we want or we prevent you from doing anything … then she would be horrible both for the party and the for the country. > > At least _pretending_ to have a little humility and being open to to idea that maybe, just maybe, you have things to learn from the progressives in the House who have been at it for a while, rather than announcing how you will get them to change things before you even arrive (because of course they have been doing it wrong and you know better), would likely serve her career well. > > That sort of posturing can end up getting you iced completely by all. It portends an increased probability that these 15 minutes of fame may be the only ones she gets after all. > > But she can still learn. Maybe she will. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/257 "2018-11-28T19:42:23Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > She seems like a fairly intelligent young woman but with a few fringy and untested convictions. Aren’t these pretty much the same “fringy” ideas as Sanders’? Shouldn’t Millennials listen to a 20-something in addition to a 70-something? And are their ideas really so “fringy and untested”? 😕 IIRC, they pretty much correspond to what countries like Germany have already had for many years. If you want “fringy and untested” ideas look to the current U.S.A. regime. Where have present-day GOP “ideas” been tested? In Putin’s Russia? In banana republics? I am NOT a hard leftist and might not support much of the Sanders-Ocasio-Cortez agenda. So am I concerned? _ **Don’t be silly!** _ The U.S.A. is not turning socialist any time soon. If the “Sanderistas” can push the U.S. from its current bat-shit right-wing politics to a saner right-of-center position, we should be grateful to them. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/258 "2018-11-28T19:51:20Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Aren’t these pretty much the same “fringy” ideas as Sanders’? . There’s no doubt plenty of overlap. You do remember Sanders lost the primary, right? So it’s fair to assume that there is plenty of Dems who aren’t on board with Sanders/AOC’s positions? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/259 "2018-11-28T20:06:21Z")
Oh, and here’s a soupçon from this very thread: > [@DSeid](#): > > . I really do think she has potential to be a real leader and force in the future if she gives herself a chance to learn a bit from House progressives who have been at it a while and doesn’t overly embrace the spokesperson for the movement that the media (of all sides) is eager to impose upon her. How dare he? How dare he think a bartender is not fully equipped to be a mover and shaker in Congress. Elitism!! Trumpist!! Eta: that said, her working for Sanders and interning for Kennedy are good thing on her resume. I honestly don’t get how a go getter like this didn’t snag a real political job instead of bartending. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/260 "2018-11-28T20:16:33Z")
It seems to me that you have a borderline unhealthy obsession with the “bartender” aspect. Strange. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906.md?page=14)