# Why is conservative media obsessed with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 21, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906 "2018-11-21T17:44:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/361 "2018-11-30T22:33:21Z")

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And here’s a newsflash: I don’t think 20 years ago you was probably fit for Congress. So I am not sure what this “I was a loser too!” stuff is supposed to convince me of.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/362 "2018-11-30T22:36:44Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> And here’s a newsflash: I don’t think 20 years ago you was probably fit for Congress. So I am not sure what this “I was a loser too!” stuff is supposed to convince me of.

…I don’t think “6-year-ago” Ocasio-Cortez would have been fit for congress either. But she seems to be fitting in perfectly now. So I’m not entirely sure what you are trying to convince the rest of us about.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/363 "2018-11-30T22:38:28Z")

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She actually isn’t in Congress yet.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/364 "2018-11-30T22:40:04Z")

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[quote=“CarnalK, post:361, topic:824906”]

… fit for Congress…/QUOTE]

You keep going back to this.

Please tell us what constitutes being “fit for congress” is.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/365 "2018-11-30T22:44:47Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > [@CarnalK](#):
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> > … fit for Congress…
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> You keep going back to this.

I do? Hadn’t noticed.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/366 "2018-11-30T22:45:16Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> She actually isn’t in Congress yet.

…congrats!!! You win the debate! Well done you. You can’t expect “losers like me” from countries with a “fifth of the population of New York” to be able to handle a debate like this. I defer to your superior skills. How can I compete with such a devastating rebuttal?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/367 "2018-11-30T22:51:42Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …congrats!!! You win the debate! Well done you. You can’t expect “losers like me” from countries with a “fifth of the population of New York” to be able to handle a debate like this. I defer to your superior skills. How can I compete with such a devastating rebuttal?

Well that’s pretty good. You could definitely be a Republican Congressman with that style of error admission.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/368 "2018-11-30T22:58:46Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Lol. You are going to now pretend to be the reasonable Dem who doesn’t believe in personality politics after spending most of this thread freaking out on people who make the mildest of criticisms on AOC? Hilarious.

You try and read a lot into two words.

All I’ve done is point out again and again how you, despite claiming not much interest in her, have posted, I think, nearly 10% of all posts in the thread and nearly every one of them attempted to denigrate Miss O-C. You’ve been consistent and persistent in both posting and posting criticism (and all of it is elitist bullshit, IMO), all while trying to deny that you care much, if at all, about Miss O-C.

I don’t care about her. I’ll never vote for her. I won’t send her any money. But I do love noting when people’s words contradict themselves.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/369 "2018-11-30T23:01:43Z")

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To keep you guys from continuing to make idiots of yourselves, I’ll remind you that I have said more than once that she seems an intelligent, go getter woman who’ll probably be a decent Congresswoman. I’ve defended her “gaffes” for the most part. You guys are freaking out because I said her resume was thin.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/370 "2018-11-30T23:17:14Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You guys are freaking out because I said her resume was thin.

The resumes of the majority of 29-year-olds could be called “thin.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/371 "2018-11-30T23:25:27Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I don’t think “6-year-ago” Ocasio-Cortez would have been fit for congress …

Well, she would have been underage.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/372 "2018-12-01T00:31:13Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Well that’s pretty good. You could definitely be a Republican Congressman with that style of error admission.

…your implication that I’m a “loser”, the conflation of “an anonymous posters opinion” with “a professional resume”, the inability to understand the point I was actually making, and the pointless nitpicking of a point that isn’t relevant to this thread (which was the entire substance of that particular post) makes you much more qualified to be a Republican Congressman than me in my most humblest of opinions. But as always your mileage may vary.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/373 "2018-12-01T00:52:20Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> The resumes of the majority of 29-year-olds could be called “thin.”

That’s a great point. It’s kinda what I’ve been saying.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/374 "2018-12-01T01:40:16Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I do? Hadn’t noticed.

In various forms but amounts to the same thing so yeah.

But nevermind that…you said it in the bit I quoted so even if just the once why not answer the request?

Please tell us what constitutes being “fit for congress” is.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/375 "2018-12-01T01:43:02Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …your implication that I’m a “loser”, the conflation of “an anonymous posters opinion” with “a professional resume”, the inability to understand the point I was actually making, and the pointless nitpicking of a point that isn’t relevant to this thread (which was the entire substance of that particular post) makes you much more qualified to be a Republican Congressman than me in my most humblest of opinions. But as always your mileage may vary.

Pro tip: Your comebacks need a shitload more succinctness.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/376 "2018-12-01T01:52:23Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> In various forms but amounts to the same thing so yeah.
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> But nevermind that…you said it in the bit I quoted so even if just the once why not answer the request?
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> Please tell us what constitutes being “fit for congress” is.

No, sorry. Not accepting homework assignments at the moment. Fyi, I’ve said in various forms that AOC is fit for Congress.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/377 "2018-12-01T01:53:36Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Pro tip: Your comebacks need a shitload more succinctness.

…pro tip: you really need to learn how to concede when you’ve lost the debate.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/378 "2018-12-01T01:55:36Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> No, sorry. Not accepting homework assignments at the moment. Fyi, I’ve said in various forms that AOC is fit for Congress.

Homework assignment?

I am asking you to clarify what YOU said.

Not willing to stand behind your own statements?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/379 "2018-12-01T02:43:22Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> … How many other “progressives” in congress can you name? How many of them get substantial time in the media?

Well, there are different flavors of progressives, and some who are looking to get more time, who are thinking it is time for _their_ close up.

Warren of course pops right up. She has been a leader, actually accomplishing things, for long time. Not her movement either of course.

Sherrod Brown big time.

Several others possibly planning to run for the nom for that matter claim a progressive mantle and certainly have embraced various progressive issues as their own … some with better histories to support their case than others.

Marcia Fudge and Keith Ellison have been in the news, Pramila Jayapal, Jan Schakowsky, Danny Davis, Luis Gutiérrez … quite a few others not getting as much press but I know who they are.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-conservative-media-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/824906/380 "2018-12-01T02:59:38Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …pro tip: you really need to learn how to concede when you’ve lost the debate.

Cute. I bet you almost really think that.

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