The Labour Party in Parliament has never wanted Corbyn as leader and were shocked and appalled when he won due to the votes of the activists. They have been trying to summon up the nerve to defenestrate him for some time and this looks like a good opportunity. They’d hoped the local council elections last month would do it but the results weren’t quite bad enough.
For their part, the Tories would rather be facing Corbyn in an election than almost anyone else.
What boggles my mind is why isn’t there a National Unity government on the table, you’d think considering the situation it warrants that kind of government to be in place until 2020, it would allow all major parties to have a voice in the negotiated exit, and would allay fears of a crisis of leadership.
it is an interesting point.
Is there likely to be a general election soon? yes
Is there likely to be a new labour leader and tory leader prior to that? yes
Is article 50 likely to be initiated before that election? no
Is a “no brexit” ticket likely to give labour a say in the game?..perhaps
What then? The referendum is advisory only and the new government would be under no obligation to act on it.
because his “you’re racist if you criticize Islam” and his love for other Islamists made people tune out to him regarding Muslim immigration and Brexit.
Says the guy who’s never met a Muslim in his life.
Because the last time the UK had an all-party government was during the Second World War. And they don’t want to create the impression that Brexit is another Dunkerque.
The mark of leadership is not just giving people what they ask for, especially if what they ask for would create a disaster. If the Brexit leads to the breakup of the UK, that is enough to get Cameron close to the top of bad PMs.
UDS - Are people registered to vote according to the party they are registered with; and, if so, cannot the leave/remain vote be broken down by party? That would be a useful statistic, I imagine, although we couldn’t get any further breakdown (age/sex, etc.).
Or was this a special election which didn’t record party registrations?
Bob
The UK doesn’t record party registrations for electoral purposes at all. In fact, I don’t think any country does so, other than the US.
The Labour party bankrupted the UK and the conservatives did good job of getting us back on our feet. The problem is that the remain group lead by Cameron failed to recognise that for the UK to grow and develop its potential we need to leave the EU. He also failed to negotiate terms that would allow us to stay within the EU, This was not all his fault, the main fault was the dogmatic stand of the EU and their failure to agree to ratify any agreement before the referendum
OK, if that’s your opinion, but this was in the context of Martin Hyde saying that he’s the worst president since Chamberlain.
I can’t see how Brexiters could be annoyed at cameron for taking the other side, when giving them a referendum on the matter. His opinion makes him the worst PM?
As someone who voted Remain, I’m somewhat annoyed that there was ever a referendum, but most of my annoyance is focused on those who campaigned for, and voted, Leave.
He failed to get the EU to give us a cake-and-eat-it deal, yes.
I completely agreed with the Poles digging their heels in about social security; remember of course that most analyses say that EU migrants are already a net positive for the UK economy, paying more in taxes than they receive in benefits, with existing rules (example).
And I predict the next leader will similarly fail to negotiate a magic deal from the periphery of the EU.
His support was lukewarm at best and he has record as a Leaver.
I find this thought really strange, although I am unfamiliar with how voter registration works in the US.
In the UK, people are registered to vote via their local council, but that doesn’t record any party affiliation. In fact, the vast majority of people aren’t affiliated to any particular party anyway, at least outside of their heads.
Also, even then, ballot papers are entirely anonymous. Post election, it will be noted if I voted, but no one could ever know ‘how’ I voted. Do US ballot papers have your name on them or something? What happened to secret ballots??
In the US, when you register, you record party affiliation or ‘no party’. Exact details vary by state, but there are primary elections and general elections. In primary elections, in most states, you can only vote within your party, although there are often other things on the ballot. So each party has a different ballot. Because there are differences in the ballots, it’s possible to see differences in voting patterns between parties without knowing how any individual voted.
I’m not sure if the ballots are differenced in general elections although, again, that could vary by state.
But primary elections are tied to selecting party candidates for an upcoming state/federal election. They can be open (anyone can show up and vote) but they normally are tied to party members. It makes sense in those cases to review party affiliation. For the UK, it would be similar to the Labour Party leadership election in 2015.
It’s an appalling idea in a general election where regardless of the outcome the representatives are suppose to represent the voters in their constituency, not just those that voted for them.
Many Labour voters voted to leave.
Hopefully they will have got that nonsense out of their system now they’ve seen the consequences, and will vote for a sensible, moderate leader - a potential leader for the country, not just their party.
Almost half the country voted to stay.
What amount of Labour voters voted to leave as opposed to Labour voters who voted to stay?
63% to 37% in favour of Remain according to pollster Lord Aschcroft.
Yes, my original question wasn’t premised on the idea of recording how individual people voted. I was simply asking what the polling showed about the breakdown of the vote by party.