# Why is Ed Zotti no longer modding the Pit?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016>\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016 "2009-05-19T21:56:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/1 "2009-05-19T21:56:52Z")

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Just curious. I thirst for all knowledge, as you know.

ETA: And, incidentally, if I had meant to start a thread cheering for him no longer doing so, I would’ve done so in one of the other boards.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/2 "2009-05-19T22:10:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Just curious. I thirst for all knowledge, as you know.

Hilarious! Next time I ask an underhanded question I’m going to use this. 😃

Seriously though, I just assumed he stopped because he was practically burned at the stake for his attempted changes. And we all know the stake is reserved for virus and malware writers. The likes of which **Ed** obviously didn’t want to be associated with.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/3 "2009-05-19T22:14:53Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> Hilarious! Next time I ask an underhanded question I’m going to use this.

I reserve the referenced remark for NOSY questions which I have no right to have answered. If I have an inquiry that would be underhanded instead, I prefer to manipulate the person into volunteering the information. Otherwise why would I keep around all these damn eel-worms?

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/4 "2009-05-19T22:22:19Z")

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> I reserve the referenced remark for NOSY questions which I have no right to have answered.

Okay, my mistake.

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> If I have an inquiry that would be underhanded instead, I prefer to manipulate the person into volunteering the information.

I have much to learn from you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/5 "2009-05-20T01:50:56Z")

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He’s stopped because he’s way too busy with all the other things he’s doing. We’ve had a number of moves of moderators in the last few days.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/6 "2009-05-20T10:07:29Z")

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> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#):
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> He’s stopped because he’s way too busy with all the other things he’s doing. We’ve had a number of moves of moderators in the last few days.

Such as? I don’t remember mod moves in the past that weren’t announced.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/7 "2009-05-20T10:20:03Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Such as? I don’t remember mod moves in the past that weren’t announced.

Quite possibly they’re not set in stone yet. At least that would be my guess.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/8 "2009-05-20T12:33:19Z")

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You can always see who is moderating where on the message board by looking at the forum leader list:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showgroups.php](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showgroups.php)

You can also check the individual forum areas – the moderators are listed towards the bottom of the page on the right hand side.

No big moves here of any mention; mostly it’s people who had more than one forum dropping off one and going to another one, like Rico, who drops off GQ but stays at IMHO. We’re looking forward to the return of Invisible Wombat, who has been on a break and returns to us in a few days. Ukulele Ike has retired – but he’s not been around much for a while so that’s not news.

Ed’s not directly moderating the boards at this time due to the pressure of other business.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/9 "2009-05-20T12:42:21Z")

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Glad to know that Ed had so much free time just a few months ago, with CL in crisis, that he had nothing better to do than mod here several hours a day.:rolleyes:

Can you test another version of this spin, please? I’m not buying this one. “Ed’s been promoted to another position in CL, as a reward for his excellent supervision of the Dope in the past six months, that will unfortunately keep him out of range of the internet for the foreseeable future” is pretty plausible.

Compared to this, anyway.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/10 "2009-05-20T12:59:03Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I would’ve done so in one of the other boards.

Other boards? 😕

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/11 "2009-05-20T13:13:49Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Other boards? 😕

The snarkpit, The Giraffe Board and Domebo

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/12 "2009-05-20T13:16:59Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Glad to know that Ed had so much free time just a few months ago, with CL in crisis, that he had nothing better to do than mod here several hours a day.:rolleyes:
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> Can you test another version of this spin, please? I’m not buying this one. “Ed’s been promoted to another position in CL, as a reward for his excellent supervision of the Dope in the past six months, that will unfortunately keep him out of range of the internet for the foreseeable future” is pretty plausible.
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> Compared to this, anyway.

If I had to guess, he only had to jump in in the midst of chaos while rules were changing and mods were bailing (although that might run into a bit of a chicken and egg thing). Now that the situation is once again stable, he slipped out. Or maybe he just got tired of plowing the seas and gave up. Or maybe he is happy with how things turned out and called it Mission Accomplished.

At any rate, let sleeping dogs lie.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/13 "2009-05-20T13:51:42Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> No big moves here of any mention; mostly it’s people who had more than one forum dropping off one and going to another one, like Rico, who drops off GQ but stays at IMHO. We’re looking forward to the return of Invisible Wombat, who has been on a break and returns to us in a few days. Ukulele Ike has retired – but he’s not been around much for a while so that’s not news.

To round out the list, **SkipMagic** is still an admin but is no longer actively moderating MPSIMS and Cafe Society [if anybody got a sudden ‘there goes the neighborhood’ feeling in Cafe Society, it’s because I came onboard a while back]. **fluiddruid** took a temporary assignment to help out in IMHO some time ago, and that’s done. She’s still modding The Game Room and The Barn House. Reports in the SD Chicago forums are going to **TubaDiva** and **C K Dexter Haven** , although I think that was the case anyway.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/14 "2009-05-21T06:32:24Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> To round out the list, **SkipMagic** is still an admin but is no longer actively moderating MPSIMS and Cafe Society [if anybody got a sudden ‘there goes the neighborhood’ feeling in Cafe Society, it’s because I came onboard a while back]. **fluiddruid** took a temporary assignment to help out in IMHO some time ago, and that’s done. She’s still modding The Game Room and The Barn House. Reports in the SD Chicago forums are going to **TubaDiva** and **C K Dexter Haven** , although I think that was the case anyway.

Was that too hard? There has always been notification of these changes before. Several mods moving, one coming back and two leaving does not fit into the category of “No big moves here of any mention”.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/15 "2009-05-21T07:07:40Z")

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That’s not correct, **Loach**. Most changes in forum assignments are made without any notification. You generally see announcements when mods initially come on board or leave altogether, but forum changes (typically) go without mention. During my time here, for example, I picked up Cafe Society and ATMB, and no announcements were made. **Dex** left Cafe Society for a while and we didn’t post anything (nor was anything said when he returned); **Marley23** was added to Cafe Society without any mention. It really isn’t that big of a deal.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/16 "2009-05-21T07:19:48Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> You generally see announcements when mods initially come on board or leave altogether, but forum changes (typically) go without mention.

Ike is leaving. Ed is not modding. You are not modding. Wombat is coming back. Those are just forum changes? I don’t feel strong enough about it to go back and look for examples to refute you since you threw in that (typically) to cover yourself.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/17 "2009-05-21T07:20:47Z")

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Can you do nothing but piss and moan about this board’s management?

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/18 "2009-05-21T07:33:58Z")

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Was Ed’s modding of the Pit ever meant to be more than a temporary thing?

It seems to me that he stepped in to make the changes he wanted, stayed awhile to make sure the Pit was running on an even keel again, then, when he was satisfied that it was, drew back and left the day-to-day running of the place in the hands of his staff again.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/19 "2009-05-21T07:49:33Z")

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Sure, I threw in a ‘typically’. Makes sense, since I’m sure you can find some thread in our ten year history where a forum change was announced. But as a matter of course since I’ve been a mod, forum assignments, hiatuses and returns haven’t been mentioned. Outside this thread, I don’t even recall the last time someone even said anything about changed forum assignments.

As for your question, **aldiboronti** , I can’t speak for **Ed** , so I won’t. But I’ll note that **Gfactor** ’s done an excellent job in the Pit since he took over moderation duties there, so I’m glad he’s at the helm.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-ed-zotti-no-longer-modding-the-pit/497016/20 "2009-05-21T07:52:31Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> But I’ll note that **Gfactor** ’s done an excellent job in the Pit since he took over moderation duties there, so I’m glad he’s at the helm.

No argument here.

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