# Why is everyone so relaxed about obesity? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 17, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935 "2015-04-17T20:31:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/81 "2015-04-20T04:25:16Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > The loudest anti-fat folks tend to also be the staunchest libertarian “get yer hands off my Cheezy Poofs!” types. They are much more concerned about making people feel bad about their bodies than actually making societal changes. Because societal changes will constrain their freedom, and that is a big no-no. How do you know libertarians are motivated to make people feel bad? Disagreeing with somebody and therefore assuming they’re working from bad motives isn’t logical. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/82 "2015-04-20T04:41:21Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Good news - for those concerned about getting their full recommended allotment of saturated fat, two of the new [Burger King extra-long double cheeseburgers with onion rings](http://www.bk.com/menu-item/extra-long-bbq-cheeseburger) provide 110% of the RDA. > > By contrast, a single Wendy’s triple cheeseburger gives you 145% of the saturated fat RDA, without all the inconvenience of that extra bun to get through. Pffffttt! You can get 90% of that recommended allotment in a damn snack, no need to gorge on all those huge monstrosities. For the “fullness-conscious” among us, a little package of those six mini-doughnuts gives you just about all you need. They’re fried in lard, I do believe. 🆒 Leaves room for cheeseburger-stuffed crust deep dish pepperoni pizza for lunch! MMM…more is better. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/83 "2015-04-29T00:29:46Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > But my waistline and whether or not I have a seatbelt around it is still none of your business. If you become a fat projectile heading for my car after you get in an accident while not wearing a seatbelt, it’s kind of my business when you dent my car landing on it. I’ll care about the size of the dent too. ---
**Author:** ![esmeralda2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@esmeralda2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esmeralda2)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/84 "2015-04-30T18:34:30Z")
> [@Neem](#): > > And bad health in general? > > Some of the girls at my work wanted to do something fun over the weekend. Some ideas were thrown around and I suggested a hike in one of the beautiful parks near our work. Sure, most of them are overweight, but I figured since we’re all 18-22, we should be able to handle light hiking. > > I might as well have suggested getting in a space shuttle and flying to the moon. One girl said, “Do I look like I hike?” The other ones said it’s too hot (It’s going to be 70F/21C, not that hot.) We ended up deciding on a makeover party. > > I just think it’s depressing that the majority of the developed world is not able to do any sort of physical activity. We’re becoming blobs and we’re okay with that. Why? > > I legitimately don’t get it. People blame HFCS, sugar, carbs, fat, the BMI scale, city life, extremely rare health problems, etc. But with over 2/3 of the population overweight, is it possible we’re just becoming lazy and entitled? My mom told me that people in her generation usually didn’t have seconds at dinner if they didn’t do a lot of activity that day. Or they would eat less at breakfast if they intended to eat a heavy lunch. That sort of restraint seems to have been lost. Now I see people at my college coming to campus on a shuttle bus (maybe saving 20 minutes of walking), downing entire pizzas by themselves and going home to take a nap. > > I don’t know. It definitely disturbs me and it seems it’s only going to get worse. I look at schoolkids around here and they’re all chubby. You can hardly tell the genders or ages apart since they all, male or female, have boobs. It’s scary to see. > > Any thoughts on this? Is our world going to snap out of it? Why does nobody seem to care? I agree with you completely. It isn’t so much what people are eating but how much they are eating and how inactive they are. However, in the old days, we didn’t eat as much processed food. Eating out was not a daily thing, take away and delivery hardly existed. People cooked dinner most nights and, like your mom says, didn’t eat seconds or huge portions, typically. We made fun of big fat people who stuffed themselves at all you can eat buffets. Fat acceptance didn’t exist. Peoples’ attitides have changed: that’s the big problem, not so much this: “People blame HFCS, sugar, carbs, fat” or fast food and junk food. Lazy people who think being fat and out of shape is normal. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/85 "2015-04-30T18:47:15Z")
> [@Neem](#): > > My mom told me that people in her generation usually didn’t have seconds at dinner if they didn’t do a lot of activity that day. Or they would eat less at breakfast if they intended to eat a heavy lunch. That sort of restraint seems to have been lost. > [@Ambivalid](#): > > The answer to the OP’s question is simple: we’re just worse human beings today than in yesteryear. We’re weaker, fatter, lazier, less empathetic, less responsible and just overall **worse** people today than the people of our parents and grandparents generations. Part of evolution is devolution of character. > [@panache45](#): > > More and more, young people don’t want to be bothered with anything involving physical effort. It’s much easier just to allow inertia to pile on the pounds, thinking that sometime in the future, the problem will resolve itself. The problem, though, is that older people have developed habits of eating too much and exercising too little. It takes a tremendous effort to break old habits and develop new ones. I know I’m late to this thread, but let’s all hold on a minute about how our parents practiced more restraint. Most of those parents are still around, and they’re [the fattest of all of us](http://stateofobesity.org/obesity-by-age/). The 45-65 age group is hands down the fattest. Millenials are downright svelte by comparison. I don’t know how old the OP’s mom is but it’s awfully fresh of her to be bitching about the younger generations when her peers are the ones everyone’s talking about. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/86 "2015-04-30T18:49:10Z")
> [@pool](#): > > I always think it’s funny how often if you are watching an old tv show that has the quintessential “fat kid” on it, by today’s standards they would be normal or even skinny compared to all the fat or obese kids I see today. I notice that too. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/87 "2015-04-30T19:05:41Z")
Yeah I’m pretty fat and I love getting out and walking, even hiking if it’s slow paced. Maybe that particular group just doesn’t get in to hiking? Neither of my daughters would be interested and they’re of average weight. They’d rather do a treadmill with a giant screen in front of them to distract them from the exertion. ---
**Author:** ![Turpentine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Turpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turpentine)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/88 "2015-04-30T19:07:19Z")
Even though many of the responses here are saying that OP is being overly judgmental and that maybe he co-workers simply don’t like hiking, I can identify with her annoyance and frustration a bit. Firstly, a lot of people keep saying that she’s assuming that the girls simply don’t like hiking and probably exercise some other way. The OP says that when she proposed the hiking suggestion, she got a sarcastic response of “does it LOOK like I hike?” If someone said that me, I would interpret that as the person thinking it was silly of me to think that the person is interested in physical activity of any kind. The part where I can identify with the OP is that I work pretty hard to keep my weight down, and have had to do so my whole life. I’ve never been the sort of person who can eat whatever she wants and not gain weight. And in more than one place I’ve worked, I’ve been treated as an oddball for it, to the point where I try to hide the fact that I’m health-conscious. At my old job, I used to walk two miles to work each way. I could have taken a bus, but I preferred to walk- I enjoyed the walk, it was meditative alone-time. I mentioned that offhandedly one day and I never heard the end of it. They acted like I had said I climbed the Himalayas before work every morning. Until the day I left that job, people would periodically ask “Do you still walk all the way to work every day?” At this new job, the people notice that I never eat the doughnuts at the morning meeting, and I don’t eat cake and other snacks people bring in all the time. And guess what? Someone, predictably, half-jokingly accused me of having an eating disorder. My work requires us to park far away from the actual workplace- most people take a shuttle from the parking garage. But I prefer the 15-minute walk. And yet I’ve never told my coworkers that I do this. I already know they’ll make a big deal out of it. What they don’t know, and what I will never tell them, is that I get up at 5:30am every morning and go for a long run before work. It would make their heads explode. I think people who eat doughnuts every morning and/or don’t exercise feel defensive around people who are trying to live a healthier lifestyle. I do everything I can to not rub it in (to the point of concealing it the best I can), but I still know that people are a little hostile about it nonetheless. And the funny thing is, I don’t really blame them- I feel hostile towards CrossFit douches who eat only overpriced vegan algae bars and paleo-broth. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/89 "2015-04-30T22:39:47Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I know I’m late to this thread, but let’s all hold on a minute about how our parents practiced more restraint. My parents are of the Mad Men era, so everyone drank like fish and smoked like chimneys. It explains quite a bit, really. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Spaulding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Miss\_Spaulding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Spaulding)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/90 "2015-04-30T22:59:02Z")
I get the frustration in the OP and my own thoughts and feelings are pretty similar. But I’ve resolved myself to the fact that a huge factor that plays in on this is how the mindset has changed. We view obesity as more of a ‘disease’ now and make a hundred excuses as to why it’s not the person’s fault for being obese. They’re not responsible. …Le wut? …I get that there are _some_ people who have legitimate issues that cause them to gain a lot of weight and makes it very difficult for them to shed that weight and keep it off. I get that and I’m not speaking about _them_…I’m speaking about the majority here. And the majority have the ability to do something, anything, no matter how small, to begin changing their health/weight for the better. But anyway, I view the ‘obesity problem’ as a loss cause for those who try to fight it. Ultimately it’s every individual’s personal business and responsibility. So if they want fast food every meal of the day, 7 days a week…then whatever. Just don’t cry your eyes out at me when your health plummets. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/91 "2015-04-30T23:14:33Z")
> [@Neem](#): > > But with over 2/3 of the population overweight, is it possible we’re just becoming lazy and entitled? 2/3 of the population is “overweight” just because the Diet Industry paid off the National Institutes of Health task force to change the numbers. It’s completely bogus. Not that there arent a lot of fat kids today, but until we can get a decent and scientific measurement of ‘fat’ “overweight” and “obese” we won’t know how many. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/92 "2015-04-30T23:17:18Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Yup. See the whole “Fat Acceptance” movement. If your weight _in no way affects your health_, just the current social fashion mode, why not accept it? Is bulimia and anorexia the way to go? Young girls today already have issues with the way they look, leading to unhealthy measures and even suicide. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/93 "2015-04-30T23:20:46Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > The evidence that diet affects one’s weight, health, or life expectancy is weaker and more confused than one might think: > > [Diets do not work: The thin evidence that losing weight makes you healthier.](http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/03/diets_do_not_work_the_thin_evidence_that_losing_weight_makes_you_healthier.html) > > And, incidentally, I didn’t say that obesity was just a problem in the U.S. I said that it was more of a problem in the U.S. than other developed countries. This is correct. Mind you , of course if you weigh twice or half the “normal” you likely do have some health issues. But many dudes can be 10% "overweight " and be perfectly healthy. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/94 "2015-05-01T03:31:51Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Here is a reason why obesity should not be a major public health concern. We do not know how to treat it in a way that works for the majority of people. > > Sure calorie restriction and more activity can fight obesity, but most people are unable to maintain that kind of lifestyle modification for life. More than that, many people who attempt to lose weight end up fatter/heavier than they were before they started. Yup. Yup. Yup. (and the “heavier after” part is really key…) > [@](#): > > Point being, of all the things people can do for their health trying to fight obesity seems like the least effective. Plus, unlike other health interventions, there is a risk that fighting it will make it worse. If you try to quit smoking there is little/no chance you will end up smoking heavier than before. If you try to reduce your stress there is little/no chance you will end up even more stressed than you were before. If you try to lose weight there is a decent (better than even I believe) chance you will be fatter than you were before you started when you go out 3-5+ years. If a doctor wanted to treat my hypertension by giving me a pill that would work at first, but after 3-5 years my blood pressure would probably be higher than it was before I started (and permanently stay that way) I wouldn’t take the pill except as a total last resort. The chances of losing weight and keeping it off are roughly equal to the chances of surviving stage 4 lung cancer. Bless you. > [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > The evidence that diet affects one’s weight, health, or life expectancy is weaker and more confused than one might think: > > [Diets do not work: The thin evidence that losing weight makes you healthier.](http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/03/diets_do_not_work_the_thin_evidence_that_losing_weight_makes_you_healthier.html) Yup. And if we can’t stop making blanket and generally untrue assertions about diet and weight, can we at least stop making the untrue assertion that exercise is a good way to lose weight? That’s been pretty solidly debunked. Exercise is absolutely crucial for good health, both mental and physical…but weight loss? Not so much. Don’t believe it? Google away. ---
**Author:** ![esmeralda2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@esmeralda2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esmeralda2)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/95 "2015-05-01T06:18:19Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I know I’m late to this thread, but let’s all hold on a minute about how our parents practiced more restraint. Most of those parents are still around, and they’re [the fattest of all of us](http://stateofobesity.org/obesity-by-age/). The 45-65 age group is hands down the fattest. Millenials are downright svelte by comparison. I don’t know how old the OP’s mom is but it’s awfully fresh of her to be bitching about the younger generations when her peers are the ones everyone’s talking about. I don’t think we are talking about people who are currently in their 40s to 60s. We are talking about past generations. For example, if you go to second had shops that sell antique clothing, you will find that most of the clothing is simply not big enough for most Americans today, because most Americans today are so much bigger than Americans used to be. People were more slender because they ate less processed food, less junk food, and were more physically active on a daily basis. You may be very young and think that it is only young people today this discussion is directed at, but you are wrong. You need a broader understanding and perspective of this issue. ---
**Author:** ![esmeralda2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@esmeralda2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esmeralda2)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/96 "2015-05-01T06:21:18Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Page 56. 50 is childhood. Update [here](http://www.oecd.org/els/health-systems/Obesity-Update-2014.pdf). > > Being worst in the U.S. does not mean that obesity and lack of fitness are not problems elsewhere. To quote from that update: > On the plus side -And in children > For children the U.S. does not lead the pack - Greece, Italy Slovenia, and New Zealand are all worse off. > > And of note for childhood physical fitness the U.S. is near the top, believe it or not. (See page 49 of Wendell’s cite.) > > Really obesity and lack of fitness is NOT just a U.S. problem. This is totally BS as far as Greece and Italy go. I have spent a lot of time in both countries and see no great amount of childhood obesity, quite the opposite. And clearly not at all to the extent it exists in the US. ---
**Author:** ![esmeralda2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@esmeralda2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esmeralda2)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/97 "2015-05-01T06:27:05Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Here is my perspective. Some background, I am overweight but I lost over 100 pounds in the last year through changing my behaviors. > > 1. Maybe they just don’t like hiking. That is fun for some people but sounds like a chore for many. > > 2. It’s a shitty attitude, expressed by some in this thread, to assume a fat person is a lesser person than you. Lazy, morally inferior. There are a lot of reasons people get fat and many of them are outside of a person’s control without a great deal of effort. > > You know how you can open up a bag of chips and eat them all without realizing it? That’s not an accident. There is an entire industry filled with scientists and engineers that design foot to be eaten rapidly and not make you feel full because that makes you buy more and that is what makes them money. They design flavors and textures that hit our brains in ways that were evolved to help us survive in the wild. It is literally out of many people’s control. > > 1. Every fat person knows very well what they look like and probably hates them self for it on some level. Or at least is aware how other people perceive them. There is no real “fat acceptance” movement. That’s an internet construction of a handful of people with web sites. That said, everyone has something about themselves they hate so people who turn there nose up at fat people should get off their High Horse. > > In summary, hiking sucks and be nice to each other. You are wrong, very wrong about fat acceptance. It is a movement, look it up. But also, it is simply a PC type of thinking that has infiltrated our society. I am old enough to remember what things were like before being fat or obese was an acceptable thing. Far, far fewer people were overweight. Most women that had let their figures go were grandmothers, and that was acceptable because they were grannies and everyone knew that metabolism slows down after a certain age. But even then, when we thought those ladies were ‘fat’ or plump, looking back now, it is obvious they were nowhere near the kind of fat middle aged and younger women are today. Think Aunt Bee. She was plump and that was accepted because she was middle aged. But she was not obese like women are today. And children back then were definitely rarely over weight. It was just not acceptable in those days to be fat unless you were an over the hill granny or grandpa. ---
**Author:** ![esmeralda2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@esmeralda2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/esmeralda2)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/98 "2015-05-01T06:30:15Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Yup. Yup. Yup. (and the “heavier after” part is really key…) > > Bless you. > > Yup. > > And if we can’t stop making blanket and generally untrue assertions about diet and weight, can we at least stop making the untrue assertion that exercise is a good way to lose weight? That’s been pretty solidly debunked. Exercise is absolutely crucial for good health, both mental and physical…but weight loss? Not so much. > Don’t believe it? Google away. Whoever told you that exercise does not help you to lose weight is absolutely crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/99 "2015-05-01T08:41:43Z")
> [@esmeralda2](#): > > Whoever told you that exercise does not help you to lose weight is absolutely crazy. Nobody “told” me that exercise does not help weight loss, but multiple people, the sort who favor white coats, hanging out in laboratories and playing with numbers, generally known as scientists, have examined the question of the usefulness of exercise in weight loss and have concluded that… nah. Not really. The things they’ve learned suggest that exercise might actually make it more difficult to lose weight! :eek: Whoda thunk, right? This is particularly disheartening: > [@](#): > > One of the few studies ever to have scrupulously monitored exercise, food intake and metabolic rates found that volunteers’ basal metabolic rates dropped as they lost weight, even though they exercised every day. As a result, although they were burning up to 500 calories during an exercise session, _ **their total daily caloric burn was lower than it would have been had their metabolism remained unchanged** _, and they lost less weight than had been expected. That’s from[this article in the NY times.](http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/dieting-vs-exercise-for-weight-loss/) That’s just one. Go ahead and google it. Something like “exercise doesn’t promote weight loss controlled studies” should give you a good assortment. As I said originally, exercise is a great thing for your health, maybe the greatest. But not because it helps you lose weight, because it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935/100 "2015-05-01T14:27:17Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > The loudest anti-fat folks tend to also be the staunchest libertarian “get yer hands off my Cheezy Poofs!” types. Eh…I’ve seen an awful lot of fat libertarian types on scooters. > [@](#): > > They are much more concerned about making people feel bad about their bodies than actually making societal changes. It’s fun to be judgmental! We can feel better about ourselves! Yay! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-everyone-so-relaxed-about-obesity/717935.md?page=6)