# Why is Hillary so loved?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 11, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493 "2016-11-11T13:23:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Carryon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Carryon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carryon)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/21 "2016-11-12T09:08:53Z")

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For some odd reason, Hillary is the first candidate for any political office, I’ve ever felt BAD FOR, that she didn’t win.

And it’s odd cause I didn’t agree with a lot of what she said or stood for. And I’m talking any candidate for any office regardless of state or federal level.

Other candidates I highly supported lost and I didn’t feel bad for them on a personal level when the lost. I guess it shows something, I’m not sure what though.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/22 "2016-11-12T11:30:52Z")

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> [@dunkleosteus](#):
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> I don’t “love” her, but on a matter of principle I tend to avoid any candidate [Trump] that tries to smear or incite hate against their opponent. The moment you attack a person’s character instead of their policies is the moment I stop listening.

So… I guess you missed all of Hillary’s many blatant attack/smear ads?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/23 "2016-11-14T18:32:41Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> So… I guess you missed all of Hillary’s many blatant attack/smear ads?

Playing tape of a candidate speaking does not smear them.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/24 "2016-11-14T18:40:43Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Playing tape of a candidate speaking does not smear them.

At least not unfairly.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/25 "2016-11-14T18:42:41Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> For those of you who are devoted Hillary supporters, why do feel that way? What the specific factors that create that support?

I was no fan of hers in 2008, but was fairly “devoted” this time. Experience, integrity and good policies are hard to find in a candidate for President. Standing up to so many baseless allegations was also admirable.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/26 "2016-11-14T19:47:43Z")

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> [@BetsQ](#):
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> However, as a person, I find her very admirable. She is extremely intelligent and unbelievably hard-working. She cares about the data and evidence that inform policy decisions. She has consistently worked for things that would help women and families. She has been under fire from all of the right wing for at least 25 years and has managed to maintain her composure to an admirable degree. Her performance during the debates was nothing short of amazing. Her passionate defense of women’s rights to make decisions about their own bodies in the third debate made me cry honest-to-god tears of joy.

I would echo these comments. In addition, I’d reiterate her ability to dust herself off and back into the fray every time she was knocked down. I think in many ways she’s kind of served as a microcosm for many women about the way they’ve been treated in their working life, and the ability to keep fighting against it has endeared quite a few folks to her.

I’d probably say I love Hillary and all she’s fought for, even in the face of unfair accusations, trying to derail her from the fight for women, children, and minorities.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/27 "2016-11-14T20:49:18Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> Yes. Bill is a sleazebag with a documented record of womanizing. She’s stayed with said sleazebag for decades. I don’t know exactly why she has made that decision, but no truly badass bitch would deal with that shit.

They may have an open marriage.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/28 "2016-11-14T20:53:59Z")

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I think it was pretty widely reported that Clinton had a high disapproval rating. As did Trump. Sure some people love her but I don’t think you can say she was “so loved.”

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/29 "2016-11-14T21:10:56Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> She’s a badass bitch who doesn’t take shit. She’s a lifelong politician who has been doing what she feels is right for 30 years. She gets things done even though she has the “handicap” of being a woman. She also has excellent hair.

> [@garygnu](#):
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> She has a decades-long fight to use the power of her office, her stature, and government to make the country and the world a better place for everyone. She has an impressive combination of big-picture dreams and fine-detail focus. She’s willing to comprise but has a mean streak. Up-close witness to the federal executive. What’s not to love?

I could never get behind the whole “experience” and “Career Politician” thing. Other than serving as a senator from 2001, there is no other political experience. (And she was arguably elected largely because of name recognition, because her husband had been president.) Beyond that her adult life was as a college professor. Unless you want to call being First Lady of Arkansas, and First Lady of the USA as political experience. Being a wife isn’t experience. Political or otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/30 "2016-11-14T21:23:43Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> Other than serving as a senator from 2001, there is no other political experience. (And she was arguably elected largely because of name recognition, because her husband had been president.)

Secretary of State doesn’t count as political experience?

She won the senate seat for 3 reasons. If Giuliani hadn’t dropped out to fight cancer there was a good chance of her losing. So: 1) Rick Lazio wasn’t nearly the opponent that Giuliani would have been. 2) due to demographics democrats have a big advantage in New York. 3) obviously her name and high profile.

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**Author:** ![BrightSunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@BrightSunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightSunshine)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/31 "2016-11-14T21:57:37Z")

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Her speech as a college graduate: [Student Speech | Wellesley College](http://www.wellesley.edu/events/commencement/archives/1969commencement/studentspeech#rMuxHQrz7mWg48Gs.97).

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-hillary-so-loved/771493/32 "2016-11-14T22:01:15Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> If Giuliani hadn’t dropped out to fight cancer there was a good chance of her losing.

She was actually ahead of Guiliani in the polls by 8-10 points when he dropped out, and her lead was widening.

New Yorkers actually don’t like Guiliani all that much, and it was prior to 9/11.

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