# Why is Humpty Dumpty an egg?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452
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**Created:** [February 10, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452 "2017-02-10T11:21:40Z")
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### Author:  [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/1 "2017-02-10T11:21:40Z")
There are commercials for some tax service that feature Humpty Dumpty (some also include the King’s men) that got me to thinking. We all remember the poem, right?
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the King’s horses and all the King’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.
No where does it say that Humpty is an egg. Are there other verses that I don’t know that explain this? Is there any Ye Olde English word meanings that got lost to the ages? Is there anything as disturbing as in the tax commercial when Humpty starts ‘bleeding’ yolk from the corner of his mouth? What about that poem has subjected me to that sight? Why, oh why is he an egg?
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/2 "2017-02-10T11:26:12Z")
Probably because Carrol depicted him as an egg in \*Through the Looking Glass. \*
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### Author:  [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/3 "2017-02-10T11:33:20Z")
Humpty Dumpty was considered to be an egg before Lewis Carroll wrote about him:
> **[Humpty Dumpty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty)**
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> Humpty Dumpty is a character in an English nursery rhyme, probably originally a riddle and one of the best known in the English-speaking world. He is typically portrayed as an anthropomorphic egg, though he is not explicitly described as such. The first recorded versions of the rhyme date from late eighteenth-century England and the tune from 1870 in James William Elliott's National Nursery Rhymes and Nursery Songs. Its origins are obscure, and several theories have been advanced to suggest ...
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/4 "2017-02-10T11:48:49Z")
[The Master speaks.](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1494/why-is-humpty-dumpty-portrayed-as-an-egg-even-though-eggs-arent-mentioned-in-the-nursery-rhyme)
[QUOTE=Cecil Adams, world’s smartest human]
According to Martin Gardner, in The Annotated Mother Goose, the Humpty Dumpty rhyme is a riddle. Riddling rhymes were a popular source of entertainment for many centuries. The answer to the Humpty Dumpty riddle is, of course, “an egg.”
[/QUOTE]
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### Author:  [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/5 "2017-02-10T11:51:59Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> Humpty Dumpty was considered to be an egg before Lewis Carroll wrote about him:
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> [Humpty Dumpty - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty)
So, no other verses. Just different versions of the same verse. If we go by Wiki, there is no real reason why he’s an egg. Except perhaps ‘egg’ is the answer to a riddle posed in the poem. Or in a version of the poem that was a riddle if we step into the wayback machine.
Yeah, nobody knows.
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### Author:  [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/6 "2017-02-10T12:58:25Z")
Well, a good riddle can only last so long. Way back before TV, radio, or readily available books, jokes, stories, and riddles were the evening’s entertainment. If the original fairy tales seem gruesome today, it’s because they were meant for adults.
I don’t know why the Humpty Dumpty riddle rhyme was chosen to survive so long in our Anglo-Saxon culture. Here’s a 16th century riddle rhyme that no one hears anymore:
What being born without hand, lip, or eye,
Yet doth run roaring through the world 'til it die?
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/7 "2017-02-10T13:00:40Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> What being born without hand, lip, or eye,
> Yet doth run roaring through the world 'til it die?
sounds like fire
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### Author:  [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/8 "2017-02-10T13:07:11Z")
Or a hurricane/tempest after all we still talk of storms being born out to the east, west or whatever
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### Author:  [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/9 "2017-02-10T13:45:18Z")
Oh boy, riddles!
What’s the difference between your grandmother and your granary?
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### Author:  [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/10 "2017-02-10T13:56:26Z")
> [@casdave](#):
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> Or a hurricane/tempest after all we still talk of storms being born out to the east, west or whatever
Wouldn’t work because hurricanes have eyes.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/11 "2017-02-10T14:31:01Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Oh boy, riddles!
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> What’s the difference between your grandmother and your granary?
One stores a lot of old seed, the other’s my granny.
What’s the difference between your mother and a duck with a head cold, Trebek?
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### Author:  [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/12 "2017-02-10T14:43:09Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> I don’t know why the Humpty Dumpty riddle rhyme was chosen to survive so long in our Anglo-Saxon culture. Here’s a 16th century riddle rhyme that no one hears anymore:
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> What being born without hand, lip, or eye,
> Yet doth run roaring through the world 'til it die?
And the answer is “A fart.” I guess there’s a reason this one isn’t in the nursery rhyme books, but the kids would love it.
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### Author:  [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/13 "2017-02-10T14:43:32Z")
> [@Derleth](#):
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> One stores a lot of old seed, the other’s my granny.
Sorry, no. But thanks for playing! 🙂
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### Author:  [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/14 "2017-02-10T14:50:30Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Oh boy, riddles!
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> What’s the difference between your grandmother and your granary?
one is one’s born kin, the other is one’s corn bin
I read the Dark Tower books! 😉
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### Author:  [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/15 "2017-02-10T15:14:03Z")
Just an earlier version of the “Can of Worms” dilemma.
Even the King and all his men can’t put a broken egg back together.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/16 "2017-02-10T15:20:46Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> And the answer is “A fart.” I guess there’s a reason this one isn’t in the nursery rhyme books, but the kids would love it.
Ah, [a cross-cultural interest](http://archive.wul.waseda.ac.jp/kosho/chi04/chi04_01029/chi04_01029.html)!
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### Author:  [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/17 "2017-02-10T15:24:07Z")
> [@Rebo](#):
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> one is one’s born kin, the other is one’s corn bin
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> I read the Dark Tower books! 😉
Thankee sai!
[sub]taps throat[/sub]
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### Author:  [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/18 "2017-02-10T15:26:15Z")
I’ve pondered the OP’s question before myself. The riddle nature of the story actually does help me accept good old HD as an egg. Culturally it does make sense, and it does serve as a teaching riddle/thought experiment: What things, once broken, can’t be fixed?
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### Author:  [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/19 "2017-02-10T17:23:54Z")
I like _The Hobbit_ version better:
> [@](#):
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> A box without hinges, key, or lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid.
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### Author:  [@epolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epolo)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-humpty-dumpty-an-egg/779452/20 "2017-02-10T18:01:56Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Way back before TV, radio, or readily available books, jokes, stories, and riddles were the evening’s entertainment.
I just had a flash of a past life…
Sitting around the cooking fire early one evening
“Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again. What was he?”
“A cup”
"Wrong. Guess again. "
“No, he’s right. A cup sits up on a shelf and when it breaks you can’t fix it”
“I’ve heard this one before: it’s an egg”
Multiple voices: “Spoilers!”
“It’s not an egg, it’s a cup”
“You can fix an egg”
“No you can’t”
“My cousin had an egg that he broke and he was able to fix it”
“Anecdotes are not data”
“If a cup breaks when you drop it, the it’s not really a cup; it’s a glass”
“Oh, a no true Pict cup”
“Anyone who thinks it’s a cup is an ass”
Multiple voices: “No personal insults!”
… much later
“People who break egg cups are worse than Attila”
“We’re done here”
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