Yeah except slander a nigger, kike, wetback etc. (to use the words of such slanderers) and its not ok. Maybe white trash should quit relying on a long history of supremacy and they too could make the case they should not be treated bad. The hard part about that is that they relied upon putting other races down in order to justify their own laziness and/or bad luck. Karma is a bitch.
By the way the IACRL was a joke. If you too stupid to know that, please post on another board.
Humans are born with a need to have sex with those around them. With regards to who we have sex with, we’re mostly products of our environment. In our culture, incest violates both laws and social norms. In order for a subculture to have the same regard for the law as the rest of society, they need to be aware of the law, and in the case of incest where the consequences of breaking the law are not readily obvious, there needs to be a decent chance of getting caught. In order for a subculture to adhere to a particular social norm, its members need to interact with outsiders to the extent that they are aware of the norm, and, perhaps more importantly, they need to be dependent enough on others that they are willing to put their own idiosyncrasies aside, if needed, to gain the acceptance of others.
To reiterate what’s already been said here, subcultures such as rural Southerners that get stereotyped as incestuous tend to be isolated and would not have been subject to outreach by law enforcement or social service entities back when the stereotype developed. Also, they were self sufficient enough that they didn’t need to care what other people thought in order to survive economically. Hence, there was less pressure to avoid incest than there was for society in general. And, of course, derogatory jokes and anecdotes about people who are less worldly or sophisticated than those telling them tend to be funny as hell, which is why the stereotype perpetuates.
The word slander does not have the definition you think it does.
That pretty much describes my first DH. Bless his heart.
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Funny coincidence: I dipped into this thread tonight after having heard, for the first time, that my father had an aunt who he never heard about till about a decade ago, who was expelled from her shithole shtetl to another shithole shtetle because she had married her Uncle. Halachically kosher, as you say, but who knows why she got the big boot. There was a scandalous age difference between the old guy and her.
My father said that the reverse is against Halacha, as you thought. Although I trust him, gotta check.
So you’re future husband must be a first cousin?
Or are you saying that your family genealogies from your father’ side don’t count anyone beyond a first, because it would get out of hand?
If the first, what’s the pool like?
Jews: Yeah, Leviticus 18:14, no Aunts:Nephews.
Who’s and what’s can and can’t of marriage summary and cites here.
About cultures and incest: I’m Chinese Malaysian Australian and Chinese culture has a taboo against incest so much that you can’t even marry someone with the same surname in case they might be your distant relative.
The opposite: my father’s family considers anybody from third-cousin on closer as too close. And yes, we do track.
Incest as in child abuse happens everywhere. It’s more likely to get out of hand - go on for a long time, not stopped, the perpetrators show less restraint, etc. - when the group is marginalized. Backwater communities are ideal for causing this - few new people come into the area to convey the social norms, few people from outside sticking their noses in to ensure the social norms are followed, less likely to come to the attention of the authorities, etc. As a result, the males in the family probably learn from their elders and continue the cycle of abuse, and females continue to be abused by multiple family members and have nobody to turn to.
In fact, given proper social upbringing, skdo23, humans are typically conditioned NOT to have sex with those around them. It’s an effect noted in Israeli kibbutz collectives but seen everywhere, where boys and girls raised closely together, even non-relatives, mostly choose their partners from outside the childhood group. I suspect isolation (and general male horniness) will overcome this tendency for the purpose of sexual relief, but not for the urge to pair and bond.
Uncle niece marriages were outlawed in England by the Victorian era but not in Germany. Queen Victoria’s mother was first married to her uncle before she married Victoria’s father. Prince Albert’s father married a niece after Albert’s mother died. So his stepmother was also his first cousin and someone he had known for years.
Cite: *We Two: Victoria and Albert: Rulers, Partners, Rivals *by Gillian Gill.