# Why is it like this?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 11, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932 "2004-01-11T04:21:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Kurdt\_Kobain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/258eb7/32.png) [@Kurdt\_Kobain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurdt_Kobain)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/1 "2004-01-11T04:21:48Z")

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How is it that any of you have the ability to joke when a male is molested by a female, when you would most likely call the molestor a monster if the sexes were reversed?

In a recent thread, it was said that a 11 year old male was molested by a 49 year old woman. Plenty of joking ensues.

Does the sex reversal change everything, somehow?

A post, if the sexes were reversed, would read something like this, with only a slight bit of hyperbole:

“That monster? How could he have done it? MY FAITH OF ALL THE GOOD OF HUMANITY HAS COMMITED SUICIDE! I think that fellow should be raped by seven large men, and then to top it out, castrated with a rusty knife!”

I will not cite it, but other than that humanity bit, I’ve seen basically all of those things said in previous threads, perhaps worded slightly different.

Why? I just don’t understand.

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/2 "2004-01-11T04:35:02Z")

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I’ll think you’ll find a few theories as to why, **Kurdt** , in [the thread concerned.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=234146)

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### Author: ![Kurdt\_Kobain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/258eb7/32.png) [@Kurdt\_Kobain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurdt_Kobain)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/3 "2004-01-11T04:46:10Z")

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Theories…

We can discuss theories all we want, but it’s all the same. No matter how hard they argue against it, it’s the same thing, or otherwise that person is implicating, most likely unknown to them, that we should change the laws regarding molestation, as the situation changes, according to them when it’s a different sex.

And morally, it shouldn’t be any different.

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/4 "2004-01-11T04:58:19Z")

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What? 😕

Look, **Kurdt** – maybe you should try posing this, which _is_ a good point, don’t get me wrong – in Great Debates, rather than here? Are you having a rant about the inequality of reaction, or asking why the human mind makes the distinctions it does?

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### Author: ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/5 "2004-01-11T05:05:58Z")

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I don’t know why this needed a new thread, but I agree with you. Sex with children is sick and wrong, and there’s no reason to have a double standard where man/girl or man/boy is the worst crime imaginable but woman/boy is, he’s just living out his fantasy. Teen girls have fantasies about older men like movie stars or even school teachers, but that doesn’t make them ripe for exploitation.

Anyway, this was a child, not an adolescent. Stick her in a cell with Jacko and let 'em both rot.

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### Author: ![Kurdt\_Kobain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/258eb7/32.png) [@Kurdt\_Kobain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurdt_Kobain)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/6 "2004-01-11T05:08:26Z")

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Ice Wolf-

I’m talking about the inequality of it.

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/7 "2004-01-11T05:12:37Z")

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Okay. I’ll stand down. Just didn’t want to see you get caught up in any more train wrecks around here. You’ve a lot to contribute to this community.

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/8 "2004-01-11T05:14:10Z")

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It just occured to me that you’d make a good moderator **Ice Wolf**

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/9 "2004-01-11T05:26:25Z")

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I’ll take that as a _good_ thing, **Lobsang**. 🙂 Thanks.

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### Author: ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/10 "2004-01-11T05:26:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Kurdt Kobain \*  
> \*\*Ice Wolf-
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> I’m talking about the inequality of it. \*\*

This not the appropriate way to vent your personal angst, night after night, **Kurdt Kobain.**

Please - get out of the Pit. You’re ignoring solid advice to do so, and enough is quite enough at this point. You can turn it around, your choice. There are many forums on the SDMB - look around. We’re not here (well, 99% of us) to bitch and rant.

**IceWolf** would be an excellent moderator! Although, he may be too nice… 🙂

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/11 "2004-01-11T05:28:51Z")

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And thank you, too, **Blonde**. 🙂

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/12 "2004-01-11T05:32:16Z")

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“he”? My deepest apologies **Ice Wolf** - I always thought you were female.

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### Author: ![Kurdt\_Kobain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/258eb7/32.png) [@Kurdt\_Kobain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurdt_Kobain)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/13 "2004-01-11T05:33:16Z")

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Blonde: SHUT THE FUCK UP! JUST SHUT IT!

How is this my personal angst? Are you that much of a mentally retarded, drooling idiot? Fuck off. I post something not about me, and you act like it is about me. You’re an idiot.

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/14 "2004-01-11T05:39:48Z")

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Firstly, I’m a she-wolf, **Lobsang**. I just don’t feel it important enough to correct every time.

Second, **Kurdt** – **Blonde** was trying to give you advice for your own betterment. There was no need to lay on all that abuse, simply because you got upset over the “personal angst” comment. Sadly, while we both to point you in a direction that meant your views would be taken seriously, and you wouldn’t get into a flame-war … I think that idea’s just been torpedoed.

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### Author: ![Kurdt\_Kobain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/258eb7/32.png) [@Kurdt\_Kobain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurdt_Kobain)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/15 "2004-01-11T06:00:42Z")

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Ice Wolf:

She deserved all abuse I laid onto her. She said that I was venting about ME, which you can plainly see is untrue. She’s an idiot.

She was only trying to derail the thread so it was about me. You were posting for my benefit, and I thank you, but she was not.

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### Author: ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/16 "2004-01-11T06:05:17Z")

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I think you’re letting past hurts get in the way of your judgement here, **Kurdt**. You over-reacted. I can see why – you’ve been involved in some pretty nasty convos here in this forum, and felt the brunt of the ol’ SDMB Train Wreck ™.

The personal angst thing? You’ve done a fair bit of that lately, **Kurdt**. I know that this isn’t part of that. Just try not to over-react with a multi-megaton warhead, when all someone does is tap you on the shoulder.

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### Author: ![Sketch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Sketch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sketch)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/17 "2004-01-11T06:13:04Z")

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Well I agree with Kurdt here, I don’t think he wes venting his own personal angst and Blonde was pretty rude to hum. I’d be angry too.

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### Author: ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/18 "2004-01-11T06:22:37Z")

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Well, I’ve heard comments a bit more rude than mine!

I would apologize for using some term that angered you, **Kurdt** - but, since you’ve invited me to fuck off…nah.  
Anger management, kid.

I’ve been there, done that on attempting to convert posters who just “didn’t get it” on how to be civil. That’s it for me - it’s not worth the effort anymore, somehow.

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### Author: ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/19 "2004-01-11T06:25:58Z")

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Train wreck in progress.

Kurdt,

really man, there is no reason to hit back like that against people who are not making personal attacks. Going into “Fuck You” and “you’re an idiot” to respond to what Blonde said is going overboard.

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2004, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-like-this/223932/20 "2004-01-11T06:26:57Z")

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I have an overwhelming desire to cringe.

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