# Why is it that female teachers who have sexual relationships with underaged boys are always hot?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 11, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294 "2014-08-11T13:11:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/21 "2014-08-11T15:31:08Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> I say confirmation bias AND media reinforcement. I recently read something (print, not web) that provided a broader illustrated sample than the usual handful of exemplary cases, and there was pretty much a normal distribution of looks, with a peak at bleh. There’s also how sometimes the media outlet will chose to print the mugshot (and let’s face it, even Hollywood figures look terrible in mugshots), and other times will print flattering pics from the suspect’s Facebook or somesuch source, and some outlets will emphasize those.
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> On top of this there’s the element of double standard scandalmongering - how often do we hear much media froofraw or sympathetic expressions about a 30something male teacher getting it on with a 15 year old girl? He just gets “go directly to PMITA jail, do not pass GO” and little media exposure if any. Once upon a time [this](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Private_lessons.jpg) had hardly any problem being commercially released in the USA. OTOH [this](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Lolita1997.jpg), with less salacious actual content, had a hard time getting a distributor.

I agree with your general premise. However, please explain why Dirty Dancing is such a popular hit–isn’t it basically about the statuory rape of a 15-ish year old girl by a a 30-something guy?

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/22 "2014-08-11T15:34:48Z")

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> [@Gorilla](#):
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> I’ve replied to similar thoughts expressed earlier in the board. There is no ‘bias’ on my part i assure you. In fact, i would have been relieved to see a case involving a plain/unattractive teacher. But i just wasn’t curious enough to investigate more cases other than what i casually see presented in the media.

I don’t think “bias” means what you think it means. No one is saying you “want” this to be true, just that when one’s brain is primed to notice something, it starts to stick out, when counter examples don’t.

I mean, I didn’t “want” Mazdas to be particularly popular, but once I bought them they were everywhere. That’s confirmation bias.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/23 "2014-08-11T15:35:49Z")

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> [@fjs1fs](#):
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> I agree with your general premise. However, please explain why Dirty Dancing is such a popular hit–isn’t it basically about the statuory rape of a 15-ish year old girl by a a 30-something guy?

Wikipedia says the character was 18 in the movie and Jennifer Grey was 26 in real life.

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**Author:** ![Gorilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Gorilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorilla)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/24 "2014-08-11T15:37:07Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> But what we’re all telling you is that we investigated for you and we found out that most of the teachers are average to frumpy. There’s just a few who look particularly hot. That’s how we concluded you fell victim to confirmation bias - we looked into it further than you.
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> It’s not like we subscribe to a secret newsletter that documents teachers who fuck their students. We’re all searching for what is presented in the media and finding lots of average to below average looking women.

I “fell victim to **media** bias” not “confirmation bias” as you keep parroting. I don’t know why you persist in ignoring what i write.

You researched it for me and now i know that the media likes to promote cases involving gorgeous women. THANKS.

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**Author:** ![Gorilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Gorilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorilla)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/25 "2014-08-11T15:39:36Z")

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> [@Nema98](#):
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> Most the students tend to be in in their later teens, youngest I have heard was 13. Never heard a case of ten year olds, sex scandals are rare in elementary school, so OP I disagree with many boys being 10-12. Back to question, most teachers are average , only few would be hot. Even among those in their 20s, most are average to cute.

The most high profile case i know involved Mary Kay Letourneau. She appeared on Larry King live. She had an affair with a 12 yr old boy who she is now married to. She was also very good looking.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/26 "2014-08-11T16:02:37Z")

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The OP’s definition of [“always hot”](http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/06/dallas-teacher-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-two-students.html/) is [questionable](http://q13fox.com/2014/07/23/new-sexual-assault-charges-filed-against-24-year-old-teacher/).

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/27 "2014-08-11T16:10:46Z")

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It doesn’t matter a whit that they put out, if they can’t first catch his eye, and get him interested. If they look like his Mom, no amount of sex is going to get make up for that.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/28 "2014-08-11T16:21:08Z")

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> [@Gorilla](#):
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> I “fell victim to **media** bias” not “confirmation bias” as you keep parroting. I don’t know why you persist in ignoring what i write.
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> You researched it for me and now i know that the media likes to promote cases involving gorgeous women. THANKS.

It’s your confirmation bias not media bias. The media reports on lots of ugly women but you “aren’t curious enough” to read them - you only like the hotties.

Nobody is ignoring what you wrote, but several people are trying to explain that what you wrote is factually incorrect.

(there probably is some media bias in favor of hotties, too)

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/29 "2014-08-11T17:03:27Z")

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Here’s another thought. If we’re talking about high school boys, they’re already pretty aware about who’s hot and who’s not. Thus, if they “got lucky” with the hot teacher, they are more likely to tell their friends and whoever else will listen. This increases the probability of an authority figure finding out and taking action. They’re probably much more secretive if it’s with the not-so-hot teacher.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/30 "2014-08-11T17:07:36Z")

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Is female teachers having sex with their middle/high school students a fairly recent thing or has it been going on for years and years and it’s just recently making the news instead of being hushed up? I know there’s been warnings and stuff about male teachers hitting on female students for years. Hell, when I went through Instructor Training in the CG, there was even a class on how to avoid situations where you could be accused of Sexual Harassment.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/31 "2014-08-11T17:57:20Z")

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I bet it’s because the boys talk about the hot ones, and therefore get caught, while the boys boinking ugly old Lunch Lady Doris keep their mouths shut out of fear of ridicule, and therefore don’t get caught so often.

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/32 "2014-08-11T18:02:12Z")

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> [@Gorilla](#):
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> I “fell victim to **media** bias” not “confirmation bias” as you keep parroting. I don’t know why you persist in ignoring what i write.
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> You researched it for me and now i know that the media likes to promote cases involving gorgeous women. THANKS.

I think we’re “ignoring what you write” because you’re not making sense.

Confirmation bias doesn’t mean you’re a bad person in any way. We’re not accusing you of lying or of making things up. Confirmation bias just means that you remember things in a particular way. If you see 20 news stories about teachers and all you remember are 5 that features hot teachers, then that’s confirmation bias.

We know it’s not media bias, because we’re finding all those other stories. In fact, we’re finding those other stories _on the same page you just pointed to_. Their pictures were there for you to see. What you remember is the hot one.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/33 "2014-08-11T18:41:41Z")

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To answer the OP’s question in one sentence.

The boys dont brag about screwing the less attractive ones, thus nobody finds out.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/34 "2014-08-11T18:49:32Z")

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> [@dracoi](#):
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> If you see 20 news stories about teachers and all you remember are 5 that features hot teachers, then that’s confirmation bias.

It would be if that were the case, but you don’t know that it is the case. He may well have seen the 5 “hot teacher” stories and not seen the other 15.

> [@](#):
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> We know it’s not media bias, because we’re finding all those other stories. In fact, we’re finding those other stories _on the same page you just pointed to_. Their pictures were there for you to see. What you remember is the hot one.

Yes, you’re finding those stories because _you’re looking for them_. The OP is not seeking these stories. As to the ones on the same page, seeing them requires taking action to scroll through the list, which the OP apparently did NOT do – he even said **“I didn’t see those other pictures. But the original picture was the one the website chose as their main feature.”** He also said **“But i just wasn’t curious enough to investigate more cases other than what i casually see presented in the media.”**

I think you ARE ignoring what he wrote. Maybe it doesn’t make sense to you that someone wouldn’t dig around to find more of these stories the way you did. But you have no way of knowing that he did see the other stories, and are dismissing his protestations that in fact he did not.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/35 "2014-08-11T18:53:11Z")

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> [@Gary\_T](#):
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> It would be if that were the case, but you don’t know that it is the case. He may well have seen the 5 “hot teacher” stories and not seen the other 15.
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> Yes, you’re finding those stories because _you’re looking for them_. The OP is not seeking these stories. As to the ones on the same page, seeing them requires taking action to scroll through the list, which the OP apparently did NOT do – he even said **“I didn’t see those other pictures. But the original picture was the one the website chose as their main feature.”** He also said **“But i just wasn’t curious enough to investigate more cases other than what i casually see presented in the media.”**
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> I think you ARE ignoring what he wrote. Maybe it doesn’t make sense to you that someone wouldn’t dig around to find more of these stories the way you did. But you have no way of knowing that he did see the other stories, and are dismissing his protestations that in fact he did not.

Except that after that he modified his position by saying that the teachers are “usually” hot, not “always”. Which suggests he’s still only really seeing the pictures he expects to see.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/36 "2014-08-11T19:26:17Z")

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> [@Gary\_T](#):
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> I think you ARE ignoring what he wrote. Maybe it doesn’t make sense to you that someone wouldn’t dig around to find more of these stories the way you did. But you have no way of knowing that he did see the other stories, and are dismissing his protestations that in fact he did not.

He only likes stories about hot teachers that screw teenage boys, we get it. If the thread is only about which news stories happen to catch **Gorilla** ’s eye it’s incredibly dull. We know that in reality the media covers stories about hot teachers, stories about average looking teachers and stories about gross teachers. It doesn’t matter if **Gorilla** doesn’t remember the ugly ones or if he honestly never saw them. The point is everyone else saw them because they’re out there and easy to catch in the media.

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**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/37 "2014-08-11T20:41:55Z")

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> [@Gorilla](#):
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> The most high profile case i know involved Mary Kay Letourneau. She appeared on Larry King live. She had an affair with a 12 yr old boy who she is now married to. She was also very good looking.

I stand corrected, though I meant in general, most are not 12. Mary Kay to me comes off as average. Debra Lafave was hot!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/38 "2014-08-12T06:58:22Z")

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The ones that get the best media attraction are either hot or especially egregious. Sure, less attractive and less salacious ones get reported, too, but those don’t get very popular. I’m sure you don’t know anything about the one that happened around here with a average looking school nurse and an 18 year old student she had an affair with. (I know because I knew her.) It was in the news, but it didn’t get very far.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/39 "2014-08-12T07:19:53Z")

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If you are a reader of [Fark.com](http://Fark.com) you would find the thread title laughable.

Fark submitters tend to get a kick out of the less than attractive teachers boinking their students. So you get to see plenty of stories wherein the ugly ones get busy with their students.

Heck, I’d say it’s about four uglies to every one hottie.

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-it-that-female-teachers-who-have-sexual-relationships-with-underaged-boys-are-always-hot/695294/40 "2014-08-12T08:37:11Z")

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When you’re fully of hormones you’ve not been near a vagina for 13 years, many teachers would appear hot. 🙂

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