Why Is JFK So Deified?

Here are the electoral votes for the 1960 election, which you can add up for yourself:

So tell me. In 1960 ballots are votes added up by state, electorate or individual votes? Because your stats do show a 0.19 margin which sounds very close to me depending on how the votes are tallied. But I have a few questions for you.

  1. Why do you suggest there is so much commentary on Illionis swinging the election from so many credible sources?

  2. Do you think it has any relevence to the question asked?

  3. Do you think it has any rel;evence with the point I was making?

Do you know how the electoral college works? That’s what decides the election, not the total popular vote. If you don’t know about the electoral college, get yourself a book on the American political system and read it.

This is the third message now where I’ve provided you with a list of his outstanding accomplishments that prove he was far more then just an image. It’s for these reasons and more that he inspired the world and is remembered today. The question you’re asking has been answered.

Or I could google commentary from experts who have. I think I’d prefer to do that but thank you for your advice. I am noticing you are deliberatly avoiding answering my questions…Cant figure out why?

I’ll try to answer. :stuck_out_tongue:

  1. I gave a possibility in #153. Are you suggesting the several people telling you Illinois by itself would not have swung the election are wrong? :confused: This board has limitations, but if that simple fact were in dispute someone wuld have posted so.

  2. [If it’s so important that this is answered, why don’t you refresh our memory on what the “question asked” was?]

  3. No. So then why are you pursuing it so tenaciously?

"1. I gave a possibility in #153. " I had no problem with your post so I did not respond, my response was to someone else.

"1. Are you suggesting the several people telling you Illinois by itself would not have swung the election are wrong?
No I a saying I dont know

“This board has limitations, but if that simple fact were in dispute someone wuld have posted so.”

So your saying that if I google it and it has 369,000 articles, this board trumps the research if its in dispute?

“3. No. So then why are you pursuing it so tenaciously?”

Because the way the original question was proposed was suggesting I lied, which undermines the rest of what I posted, so I am defending my self.

No, you did not provide a list of his “outstanding accomplishments.”

Civil Rights - Killed before this could become an outstanding accomplishment.

Missile Crisis - Manufactured emergency that brought terror to the world so Kennedy could look good politically.

Apollo Program - The president made a speech. Oh boy.

“He inspired the world.” - I’m still waiting to hear how. Because of “Ich bin ein Berliner?” Again, it was a speech. No better or worse than “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.”

Perhaps Kennedy would have been an outstanding president with many accomplishments had Oswald not interfered. We’ll never know.

Wow. Appropriate adjectives are not permitted in this forum.

Even today, there may be Americans who think the Apollo Program was a waste of money. (Perhaps that might be a good debate … if hindsight weren’t 20-20.) At the time it struck many people as absurd. The project to land a man on the Moon is considered one of the biggest and most expensive programs ever undertaken by the United States: among single efforts, only the Panama Canal and the Manhattan Project are comparable, and they had clear economic or military purpose.

The budget estimated for the effort was equivalent to about 800 Billion Dollars in present-day federal spending … and there was no guarantee of success.

Man would probably not have set foot on the Moon to this day without John F. Kennedy’s determination and charisma. Certainly such a thing is inconceivable in today’s political clime. The political hurdles were as difficult as the technical hurdles.

Kennedy was surprised he was able to develop support for the project, was himself overwhelmed by the expense and difficulties, and actually tried to backpedal out of the project. One could criticise him for the whole effort! But to suggest his contribution to the moon landing was “to make a few speeches” is … misinformed.

And why my grandfather was always buying snacks when he went to the store.

Just to chime in, Stephen King considers the Kennedy assassination one of the last “watershed moments” in American history (or something close to that…I don’t have the book 11/22/63 in front of me to check the author’s notes).

I make no claim of deification of Kennedy. He’d been dead just over 9 years when I was born in February of 1973. My mother thought he was handsome, and that Jackie was this beautiful almost-Princess, and even thinking about JFK, jr saluting the coffin would make her tear up, well into the 21st century. She was only 11 when Kennedy was killed, and while I never actually asked about it, I got the impression that part of his appear to her was that he was a young guy, in his 40’s. He played with his kids. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy and devoted father. He was funny and intelligent. He was all the things that her own father wasn’t. And Jackie was, too. She was a dignified woman, not the woman Mom had to go home to daily who would walk around half- or all-topless in front of Mom’s friends (and when she got older, boyfriends. Including my father).

To many, I think that the Kennedys represented the kind of life that they could have (politics aside…I’m not nearly knowledgeable about the political aspects to venture a guess). They seemed like a loving family. The kind that you wouldn’t mind being a part of. The ones that you wouldn’t be embarrassed to admit to being related to.

Of course, that only applies to some of the attraction, and only to certain age groups, I’ll wager.