# Why Is Liberal Allowed To Use GD As A Personal Blog??? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 22, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924 "2009-07-22T22:50:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/101 "2009-07-23T18:36:40Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I hope this doesn’t come across as offensive, **Lib** , because it certainly isn’t intended that way, but what you have been doing differently seems to be helping. People can’t get you to react, and it’s driving them nuts. On the other hand, since Lib went on his meds, he has become so obtusely boring, I don’t think I have responded to anything he has written since he came back from his self-imposed exile. ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/102 "2009-07-23T18:43:02Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > My apologies if you’re looking for an answer for someone else 😕 > [@](#): > > but it’s not junior modding. It’s a request, and a polite one at that. The OP of a thread is allowed to make requests. The fact that they are consistently ignored is evidence of how much authority those requests usually carry. OK, thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/103 "2009-07-23T18:44:26Z")
> [@Hunter\_Hawk](#): > > 😕 I posted my take on this earlier in the thread and wanted to make it clear I was offering my own opinion, and other mods might fell differently about it. ---
**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/104 "2009-07-23T19:02:41Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Incidentally, the law of excluded middle is not about leaving out alternatives between two extremes. The LEM (in first order propositional logic) states simply that the proposition (P or Not P) is always true, and follows deductively from the law of noncontradiction. Do you want a cookie? The fallacy of the excluded middle or false dilemma or whatever you want to call it is when two statements are represented to be logical opposites and, appealing to the excluded middle, one of them must be true. For example, “you’re either in Lib’s fan club or you’re a Lib hater. I don’t see you listed on the membership rolls, you damned dirty Lib hater!” ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/105 "2009-07-23T19:31:00Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Your emotional state doesn’t interest me, my point was about your history with **Liberal**. > Duh. Give me a break. I don’t pile on Liberal anymore than 30-40% of the posters here. I stay out of his retarded rambling threads and keep my comments in threads dedicated to Liberal and his retarded behaviour - like in the pit or this forum. I’m not saying anything other people aren’t saying and I get involved far less than some as well. So, outside of those places where the topic IS Liberal, what the hell is this “history” you’re talking about. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/106 "2009-07-23T19:35:56Z")
> [@Seven](#): > > Cite? You want me to cite your own posts to you? _You wrote them_. ---
**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/107 "2009-07-23T19:48:00Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You want me to cite your own posts to you? _You wrote them_. Actually, I think he’s saying that they don’t exist, and is challenging you to find them. Sometimes I think I’m the only person in the world who reads for comprehension… ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/108 "2009-07-23T19:49:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You want me to cite your own posts to you? _You wrote them_. Don’t play dumb. :rolleyes: You know what I’m saying but I’ll type slowly so you understand it. Prove. to. me. I. have. a. “history”. with. Liberal. beyond. the. other. posters. here. I think you’ll find my “history” is recent - like only about 6-8 months old. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/109 "2009-07-23T19:49:26Z")
> [@Tenebras](#): > > Actually, I think he’s saying that they don’t exist, and is challenging you to find them. And as the author of his own posts, I’m saying he does, so why do I need to waste the time finding them? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/110 "2009-07-23T19:59:56Z")
So–you’re accusing Seven of stalking lib and saying that it’s up to Seven to find posts that prove he’s not? Marley, c’mon. You know better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/111 "2009-07-23T20:02:49Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > And as the author of his own posts, I’m saying he does, so why do I need to waste the time finding them? See, this is what happens when you brag about knowing how to read… You ghost-wrote **Seven** ’s posts? The reason you need to waste your time trying to find them is because you’re the one claiming that he has a history of harassing **Liberal**. So let’s see it. On preview, what **Fenris** said. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/112 "2009-07-23T20:05:27Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > So–you’re accusing Seven of stalking lib You’re the only person who has used the word stalking, and that’s twice. I didn’t suggest the concept. I said **Seven** has been a critic of **Liberal** in the past, which is inarguable. I also didn’t imply there was an issue going back “years.” ---
**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/113 "2009-07-23T20:23:14Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You’re the only person who has used the word stalking, and that’s twice. I didn’t suggest the concept. I said **Seven** has been a critic of **Liberal** in the past, which is inarguable. I also didn’t imply there was an issue going back “years.” Oh, well that’s all right then. > [@Marley23](#): > > (Seriously, do you see yourself, **leander** , **Seven** as co-presidents of the **Liberal** fanclub? **I’m not interested in stepping into the middle of people’s idiotic grudges, some of which predate my time on this board.** But let’s not bullshit here: **Liberal** does a lot of crap to draw flack from other posters, and on the other side of things, there are people who jump his shit with any provocation. He’s been pitted four times already this year that I can find, one of those by **Stink Fish Pot** , who’s also posted in this thread.) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/114 "2009-07-23T20:26:08Z")
> [@Tenebras](#): > > Oh, well that’s all right then. Good. You’re not going to tell me that there aren’t years-old grudges between some posters, are you? I specifically didn’t say anybody had been on **Liberal** ’s case for years. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/115 "2009-07-23T20:26:48Z")
You said that [Seven and I](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11369298&postcount=57) “weren’t co-presidents of his fan club” and strongly implied that we “had grudges with Lib that went back years” and we “jump his shit without any provocation.” Sounds like an accusation of stalking to me. But that aside, you’re still making an accusation (although now that I read the actual words, I have to agree with Tenebras and say “Wha?”) of some sort about Seven history/motives and then challenging him to find posts to prove that he’s not guilty of…um…whatever you’re accusing him of. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/116 "2009-07-23T20:28:43Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Good. You’re not going to tell me that there aren’t years-old grudges between some posters, are you? I specifically didn’t say anybody had been on **Liberal** ’s case for years. C’mon dude. :rolleyes: You didn’t have to specifically have to say it given how strongly you implied it. You listed me, Seven and Leander, then went on, in the same paragraph to talk about posters who “jump Lib’s shit”. ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/117 "2009-07-23T20:30:51Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Have you actually read all five threads even though you think they shouldn’t have been allowed to continue? I’ll be polite and say that’s not very sensible. Even if you’re correct about it being a rules violation, what’s the point? That’s the entire point. I’m sorry you’ve missed it, but it seems rather obvious that he’s asking why it is **liberal** isn’t held the same rules as everyone else (except **Tom** , of course). What do you mean “even if you’re correct about it being a rules violations, what’s the point?”? That’s the sum total of the point: **Liberal** , as I understand the argument, isn’t required to follow the rules like everyone else. 😕 If he’s correct, then his point is, well, you know, evidenced. And that brings us back to why **Liberal** is free to disregard the rules to the exclusion of almost everyone else. At least that’s what I’m getting from his OP. He did posit: "I understand that GD is where witnessing threads go, **but why is he allowed to have a multi-thread, totally content free, ‘you have to agree to my beliefs’ thing going on**? He has **literally stated that there is NO debat** e when it comes to this subject so why is it even in there?" So, I guess my question to you is if it’s shown to be the case that it is a rule violation and nothing is done, what’s the point in pretending there are rules that apply equally everywhere? What is the point indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/118 "2009-07-23T20:31:38Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > You said that [Seven and I](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11369298&postcount=57) “weren’t co-presidents of his fan club” A fair assessment, I think. Do you disagree? > [@](#): > > and strongly implied that we “had grudges with Lib that went back years” You’re off your game today. I made a general comment about bad blood on the boards: posters sometimes have grudges going back a long time, and I find that stuff a snooze. I did not accuse anybody of having a years-old issue with **Liberal**. You’ll notice I didn’t say “you guys have been criticising him for years.” > [@](#): > > But that aside, you’re still making an accusation (although now that I read the actual words, I have to agree with Tenebras and say “Wha?”) of some sort about Seven history/motives I said **Seven** knows his own posts. I don’t believe that qualifies as an accusation. > [@](#): > > challenging him to find posts to prove that he’s not guilty of…um…whatever you’re accusing him of. I didn’t challenge **Seven** to anything. I said I don’t feel the need to comb through his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/119 "2009-07-23T20:34:06Z")
> [@ashman165](#): > > What do you mean “even if you’re correct about it being a rules violations, what’s the point?”? I was asking “What’s the purpose of reading all five of the threads if you feel they are pointless.” I believe that’s clear in context. > [@](#): > > And that brings us back to why **Liberal** is free to disregard the rules to the exclusion of almost everyone else. I don’t think he’s been allowed to disregard the rules. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924/120 "2009-07-23T20:44:31Z")
Marley has a history of sticking his fingers in his ears and going “lalalalalalalalalaalalala”. Don’t waste your time guys. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-liberal-allowed-to-use-gd-as-a-personal-blog/503924.md?page=7)