# Why is Michael Avenatti Doing All This? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 9, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876 "2018-05-09T19:54:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/121 "2018-08-10T00:05:48Z")
He’s running. > ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/122 "2018-08-10T00:20:42Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He’s running. > > [https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19](https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19) It would be nice to see an intelligent President again. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/123 "2018-08-10T00:28:42Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He’s running. > > [https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19](https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19) Dear lord. I’ve been enjoying Avenatti’s battle with Cohen/Trump. I wish him well in his representation of Stormy Daniels. And I commend him for representing some of the children taken from their parents at the border. In spite of his being a loudmouth douchebag in many respects, I’ve generally been a fan. I think his intentions, and usually his results, are good, unlike Trump’s. But, the last thing we need is another underqualified, self-important celebrity running for the presidency. We need someone who knows how government works and has demonstrated a commitment to established norms and the rule of law, not another loose cannon. Michael, in the vanishingly unlikely event that you’re reading this, start with a lower level of canditure. Run for a state legislative office, a mayor’s office, or maybe the US House of Representatives. You grew up near where I live. Come here and run for MO-2. I’ll vote for you. Just please, not President. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/124 "2018-08-10T01:08:35Z")
Jesus. Run for House, or even Senate. Maybe a state office like Sec of State or Lieutenant Governor. But straight to President? No thanks (though I’d obviously vote for him against Trump). ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/125 "2018-08-10T01:30:45Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He’s running. > > [https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19](https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19) Ugh. I want to go back to having boring, competent presidents. Avenatti is intelligent, but he has no public service record. Being president is not an entry level job. Even Obama, for all his criticisms of being inexperienced had something like a decade in community service, 8 years as a state senator and 4 years as a federal senator before becoming president. if Avenatti wants to run for a representative seat or maybe even a senator seat (although senator is a more serious position than rep), or to run for some kind of state or local office, have at it. But not president. These replies make me think Avenatti wouldn’t win a democratic primary. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/126 "2018-08-10T01:36:12Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Avenatti is intelligent, but he has no public service record. Being president is not an entry level job. Didn’t _used_ to be. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/127 "2018-08-10T02:05:29Z")
Yeah, I’d vote for Avenatti over Trump, but there are a heck of a lot of folks I’d vote for ahead of him. Including a number that I haven’t even heard of yet. He’s perfectly well-placed for a run for the House of Representatives: The House is supposed to be for “ordinary citizens” who don’t necessarily have any prior political experience. If a prominent person wants to get started in elected office, the House is the place to do it. Not that it matters anyway. He’s not running to win; he’s just running to get attention. Which is working. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/128 "2018-08-10T13:19:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yeah, I’d vote for Avenatti over Trump, but there are a heck of a lot of folks I’d vote for ahead of him. Including a number that I haven’t even heard of yet. A number? IMO you could grab a random person walking down the street and make him/her president and they would probably be more qualified than Trump. Seriously. (Specifically, they would be more likely to take advice from qualified people about matters about which they were ignorant.) > [@](#): > > Not that it matters anyway. He’s not running to win; he’s just running to get attention. Which is working. Of course, people said the same thing about Trump. 🙂 [Though FTR I agree with you about Avenatti.] ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/129 "2018-08-10T13:44:07Z")
Yeah, for all we might enjoy Avenatti’s efforts to torment Trump, the simple fact is the guy’s a glory hound. Sure, what the hell. But he’s not serious about running, he just knows it’s August and he’ll get some national time and remind people he’s and Stormy are still out here waiting for their shot. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/130 "2018-08-10T13:57:01Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > A number? IMO you could grab a random person walking down the street and make him/her president and they would probably be more qualified than Trump. Seriously. While this is literally true, it is perhaps best stated that your random person is likely to be less UNSUITABLE, not more qualified. It is actually quite unlikely your random person (assuming they are American and 35 years of age or more) is more qualified; most people have essentially no relevant qualifications at all. However, most people do not have Trump’s sociopathic narcissism and egocentricity, the two things that both prevent him from taking advice and allow him to be disloyal to his country. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/131 "2018-08-14T18:14:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He’s running. > > [https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19](https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19) I just noticed this. Wow. But it can be argued that he is more qualified than Sarah Palin, Ben Carson or Whats-his-Pizza. Just as Whats-his-Pizza ran to sell more pizza, and the orange clown with small hands ran to get better ratings for his TV show, I suppose Avenatti would run mainly for the added visibility in poking fun at Idiot-in-Chief. Still this all reminds us what an utter farce American politics have become. Heaven help us. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/132 "2018-08-14T22:03:27Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He’s running. > > [https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19](https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19) [Called it!](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20950452&postcount=21) (not often I get to say that recently…) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/133 "2018-08-14T23:24:21Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He’s running. > > [https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19](https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1027696296889597952?s=19) > [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Yeah, for all we might enjoy Avenatti’s efforts to torment Trump, the simple fact is the guy’s a glory hound. Sure, what the hell. But he’s not serious about running, he just knows it’s August and he’ll get some national time and remind people he’s and Stormy are still out here waiting for their shot. I agree, **JC**. It’s not an accurate statement to say “he’s running”. He’s blabbing about thinking about running, and that might just mean he hasn’t been in the news enough lately. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/134 "2019-02-14T12:46:18Z")
Oops! “Breaking: Michael Avenatti gives up control of law firm after he’s accused of hiding millions from bankruptcy court.” > **[Avenatti to give up financial control of law firm after he's accused of...](https://t.co/qckUHdFSxO)** > > Michael Avenatti agreed Wednesday to relinquish financial control of his longtime law firm hours after a former partner filed papers accusing him of hiding millions of dollars from the court that oversaw its bankruptcy. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/135 "2019-02-14T16:09:44Z")
He always struck me as somewhat shady regardless of who he was representing. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/136 "2019-02-14T16:17:33Z")
Has any man had such a rise and fall. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/137 "2019-03-12T21:11:36Z")
[Avenatti no longer representing Stormy Daniels](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/avenatti-stops-representing-stormy-daniels) Ahhhh, the perils of over-reaching! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/138 "2019-03-13T13:24:56Z")
It’s a good thing the porno actress no longer wishes to be associated with him. It might sully her reputation. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/139 "2019-03-13T13:30:20Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It’s a good thing the porno actress no longer wishes to be associated with him. It might sully her reputation. > > Regards, > Shodan I think you should always refer to her by her full title, “the porno actress that the president of the united states raw-dogged while his 3rd wife was pregnant.” Out of respect. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876/140 "2019-03-13T15:02:20Z")
I think you should refer to the President’s wife in a clearer context, as in: “the porno actress that the president of the united states raw-dogged while his 3rd wife (who also did porn) was pregnant.” This way, the social and working status of the two women are more equal… because they _are_ equal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-michael-avenatti-doing-all-this/813876.md?page=8)