# Why is President Trump's approval rating climbing?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 27, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420 "2020-03-27T13:52:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Of the states Biden needs to flip, I’d rate them in this order of likelihood:
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> Pennsylvania  
> Michigan  
> Wisconsin  
> Florida  
> Ohio
> 
> Get the first three and the other two become moot.
> 
> I believe the only issue will be the virus. DJT’s rally around the flag bump was puny and is now fading. If the death toll goes over 200,000 I think he’s toast. Everybody is going to know somebody who died, everybody will remember about the cases going to zero and how he had it contained.

I think AZ and NC might be more likely than FL and OH.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think AZ and NC might be more likely than FL and OH.

From polls I’ve seen Ohio has a good chance and Arizona is in play. What makes you think North Carolina, I haven’t seen anything yet to support that?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/83 "2020-04-07T14:42:06Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think AZ and NC might be more likely than FL and OH.

Perhaps, NC is getting to be a little more purple as is AZ. The AZ Senate race may boost some Democratic turnout there. If those two states flip, then the rout is on.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> From polls I’ve seen Ohio has a good chance and Arizona is in play. What makes you think North Carolina, I haven’t seen anything yet to support that?

The margin in NC was much smaller than OH in '16. Not FL, though – I was misremembering that.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/85 "2020-04-07T14:56:23Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> The margin in NC was much smaller than OH in '16. Not FL, though – I was misremembering that.

Fair enough, but Ohio was a reaction to Clinton, Ohio likes Biden.They also voted Obama twice.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Fair enough, but Ohio was a reaction to Clinton, Ohio likes Biden.They also voted Obama twice.

IIRC, NC’s polling for things like approval are also considerably better for the Democrats, lately, than OH. But no link handy – this is from memory, so I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/87 "2020-04-07T15:02:24Z")

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What makes me nervous about Ohio is they voted for a Republican governor and they have a history of election day issues like inequitable distribution of voting machines. A few cycles ago they refused to accept registration applications that were on the wrong weight of paper. They are certainly not known for fair play.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/88 "2020-04-07T16:38:37Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Telling me her party affiliation makes me like her as much as knowing that she has her heart more towards the left rather than the right side of her body. Good for her.

She is a pro-choice Republican. Remember when we used to have those?

> [@](#):
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> People who we can conclusively say were Trump-and-Trump-alone hires:
> 
> Omarosa Manigault  
> Heather Nauert  
> Michael Cohen  
> Michael Flynn

That is a really dumb comparison.

None of these people have been nominated to the Supreme Court.

Do you remember when Obama nominated a TV personality as Surgeon General?

Do you remember when Kal Penn worked in the white house as the Associate Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement?

These sort of appointments to position within the white house or positions that involve dealing with the press are not nearly the same thing as SCOTUS appointments.

BTW what federal appointment did Michael Cohen have?

What was wrong with Appointing Michael Flynn? He seemed qualified at the time.

> [@](#):
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> One might also mention his history of careful selection in business partners:
> 
> [https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-get-rich-seminar-partnered-with-couple-prosecuted-for-fraud](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-get-rich-seminar-partnered-with-couple-prosecuted-for-fraud)  
> [Ulrich Marseille – Wikipedia](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Marseille)  
> [Football Leaks: Kazakh moguls, the pal of Donald Trump, teen models and the yacht of the "Father of the Turks" - The Black Sea](https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-kazakh-moguls-the-pal-of-donald-trump-teen-models-and-the-yacht-of-the-father-of-the-turks/)

Yes and how is that relevant to your assertion that Trump was going to nominate Fox News talking heads to the Supreme court?

Trump is taking advice from the heritage foundation (or some other conservative outfit) and conservatives like that.

> [@](#):
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> Saying that because Napolitano is a Fox news host, he couldn’t possibly ever get the job is not realistic. To be sure, Trump might have just been buttering him up. But I see no real reason to think that he wouldn’t have gone ahead with the guy if the Senate had said that they were willing to buy it.

He might nominate Barack Obama. Shit. Anything is possible in theory. But the fact remains that he never tried to nominate Napolitano. Conservatives have reason to be satisfied with his SCOTUS nominations.

> [@](#):
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> Paul Ryan’s message, leaving the government, was that the last two years of his service were devoted to stopping calamity from unfolding each and every day, on the basis of the inane things that Trump would suggest. It’s what Don McGahn said. It’s what John Bolton seems to have wanted to say. It’s what John Kelly said. It’s what Omarosa Manigault, of all people, said.
> 
> From the man’s history, I would put the weight of probability on their being honest. A disgruntled former employee (which Paul Ryan isn’t) still complains about the things that were actually sucky about their former place of employment. They don’t invent something out of wholecloth.

I agree Trump is a trainwreck but he is a trainwreck that is nominating solid conservative justices, pushing a conservative-ish agenda (see tax cuts for the rich and deregulation of industries that have repeatedly proven they need lots and lots of regulation) and most importantly HE IS ELECTABLE (or at least he seemed so until very recently.

> [@](#):
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> I didn’t mention them. If you thought that I was, and replied to me about them thinking that I was discussing them, then you misunderstood something that I wrote. I have no wishes towards nor against them and didn’t raise any. I have no opinion on whether Never Trumpers have stayed the course or not and have no particular interest in the subject.

Can you please explain your post 68 where you directly respond to my statement that

"Yes, I know several former never Trumpers who have become Trump supporters because:

Tax Cuts  
SCOTUS nominations"

This entire subthread between you and me is about Never-Trumpers!!! This entire subthread is in response to my contention that there is in fact a group of voters that didn’t vote for Trump in the last election that will vote for him this time around.

This conversation is NOT about whether or not Trump is a trainwreck. I think we both agree on that.

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Without looking at polls, does anyone know a soul that voted for Hillary in 2016 that would flip to Donald in 2020?

I’ve seen quite a few comments on social media of “I voted for Obama and/or Clinton but now I’m voting Trump in 2020”. Now, I suspect some of them are Trump/Republican voters who are deliberately trying to put up a guise of “blue switchovers” to encourage blue voters to jump ship too, but others may be genuine.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think AZ and NC might be more likely than FL and OH.

I think AZ is at Biden+10 right now.  
I suspect NC is is similarly situated

I would like to see polling in Georgia. I think Georgia might be in play and if Biden picks someone like Stacey Abrams. Just spitballing.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/91 "2020-04-07T16:52:08Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> That is a really dumb comparison.
> 
> None of these people have been nominated to the Supreme Court.

So, I hire Britney Spears to be my lawyer:

“I’ve never really wanted to go to Japan. Simply because I don’t like eating fish. And I know that’s very popular out there in Africa.” -Britney Spears

I ask her to take charge of paying off people who I have criminally, sexually assaulted and give her an unofficial role in my business, trying to organize my largest, multi-million dollar contracts with criminal dictators. You know, just a trivial position of no particular importance to my personal well-being, legal, nor financial position in the world.

Later, through unknown processes, I produce a list of people who I would want to see on the Supreme Court. They overall seem like reasonable, sane people.

Is this list the product of my mind, or the product of the minds of people who are wiser than me and who hold absolute veto over my choices?

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/92 "2020-04-08T18:07:43Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Rasmussen now even lower, [down to 44%](https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history) which in the [538 adjusted world](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo) brings it to 38%.
> 
> Apparently taking COVID seriously helps him with the normos, but the right wing really does not like it.

is my link not going to the latest page? I see 47% and 44% approval

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Trumps Job approval fell a few points as of today’s large batch of polls.

```auto

President Trump Job Approval	CNN	Approve 44, Disapprove 53	**Disapprove** +9
CNBC	Approve 46, Disapprove 43	**Approve** +3
Monmouth	Approve 46, Disapprove 49	**Disapprove** +3
Politico/Morning Consult	Approve 44, Disapprove 54	**Disapprove** +10
Rasmussen Reports	Approve 47, Disapprove 52	**Disapprove** +5
Economist/YouGov	Approve 45, Disapprove 53	**Disapprove** +8

```

General Election: Trump vs. Biden \> Economist/YouGov \> Biden 48, Trump 42 = Biden +6

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> is my link not going to the latest page? I see 47% and 44% approval

I would guess that **Fiveyearlurker** was assuming that if poll X goes down by Y, then FiveThirtyEight would also go down by Y.

Obviously, that’s not how it works.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/95 "2020-04-08T19:40:46Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Looks like he’s leveled off.](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/)

And now the descent has started.

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> There is a German variant of the Bobblehead (German: Wackeldackel) that became very popular here after it featured in a [car ad on TV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQo95oI4nXY): the [Wackel-Elvis](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wackeldackel#Wackel-Elvis)!  
> If some of tanTrump’s fiercest supporters think that they can make fun of environmentalist when they claim that their favourite animal is the nodding donkey, we can claim that the Wackeldackel is better and then call them Wackel-Elvis.

The wackeldackel _is_ better!

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> And now the descent has started.

Down a point in just a couple of days. What could possibly cause it to go up again? A BOOMING economy, which he tweeted would happen when things are opened up again first of May? Which isn’t happening all over the country anyway.

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> What could possibly cause it to go up again? A BOOMING economy, which he tweeted would happen when things are opened up again first of May? Which isn’t happening all over the country anyway.

It doesn’t have to actually happen. Trump just says it’s happening, and they believe it. Trump’s whole career and presidency have been entirely based on his bullshit claims and fabrications, and on his bullshit PR image. He’s always found enough suckers to fall for it.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-president-trumps-approval-rating-climbing/850420/99 "2020-04-10T01:48:01Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I would guess that **Fiveyearlurker** was assuming that if poll X goes down by Y, then FiveThirtyEight would also go down by Y.
> 
> Obviously, that’s not how it works.

Obviously, my post was on the 6th. When it was at 44%. It subsequently rose to 47% when you looked at it on the 7th. As you can see from the link.

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Obviously, my post was on the 6th. When it was at 44%. It subsequently rose to 47% when you looked at it on the 7th. As you can see from the link.

And it was never at 38%, as you suggested it should be, nor should it be since that’s not how it works.

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