# Why is "quid pro quo" such a key point? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 22, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132 "2019-10-22T12:42:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/21 "2019-10-23T18:19:23Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Yes, it seems to me that very few in the media are discussing what seems to me the most corrupt aspect of this whole thing. Trump was pressuring them to FABRICATE something bad about Biden. I’m not so sure about that though. I can believe that he’s addle-brained enough to think that there really was something there. ---
**Author:** ![ALOHA\_HATER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@ALOHA\_HATER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ALOHA_HATER)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/22 "2019-10-26T03:39:21Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > This is GQ. There are plenty of other threads in other forums where you can give your interpretation and opinion about Trump and his actions. In this forum, stick to the facts. > > Note to all: I realize that Trump is a hot-button topic for many here, but please keep the Trump commentary out of this thread (and this forum). I think this bot is not quite programmed right. Trump commentary is appropriate in a thread asking for commentaries about Trump. The poster didn’t say anything factually wrong. And it seems to me like this is a bot that is meant to keep the forum “apolitical.” Ie to keep people from fighting about stuff. This is profoundly misguided: every attempt to keep things “apolitical” is \*very \*political as apoliticality supports the status quo by suppressing bona fide intercourse from good-will actors who are being hurt, whose lives are damaged, by the issue at hand. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/23 "2019-10-26T03:51:14Z")
> [@ALOHA\_HATER](#): > > I think this bot is not quite programmed right. Trump commentary is appropriate in a thread asking for commentaries about Trump. The poster didn’t say anything factually wrong. And it seems to me like this is a bot that is meant to keep the forum “apolitical.” Ie to keep people from fighting about stuff. This is profoundly misguided: every attempt to keep things “apolitical” is \*very \*political as apoliticality supports the status quo by suppressing bona fide intercourse from good-will actors who are being hurt, whose lives are damaged, by the issue at hand. Moderator Note If you want to dispute moderation, take it to ATMB. Do not dispute it within the thread. Violation of moderator instructions may lead to a warning. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![szabrocki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@szabrocki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/szabrocki)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/24 "2019-10-26T05:01:37Z")
What makes you assume that Trump understands all the nuances of “quid pro quo?” It is Latin and not directly translated into English. There are many words or phrases (concepts) that cannot be directly translated exactly into English. That is why we use them. A few are… Schadenfreude. (German) A feeling of enjoyment that comes from seeing or hearing about the troubles of other people. Razbliuto (Russian) Describes the feeling a person has for someone he or she once loved. Quite a sad word but here it is for when you really want to convey that. Antier (Spanish) A one-word way of saying the day before yesterday It can mean much more. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/25 "2019-10-26T05:09:58Z")
Remember: impeachment, trial, and removal are a political process, not criminal. The “other high crimes and misdemeanors” presented in articles of impeachment are not criminal charges to be proved beyond some doubt, but items the senators sitting as a jury must decide are noxious enough, have besmirched the nation enough, and provide the senators political cover enough, to warrant removal without hurting their careers. Senators will vote on their own interests, not on the charges themselves. Thus, “quid pro quo” is legally irrelevant here. Dude’s already bound for prison, soon as he leaves office. He has bragged of obstruction and bribery, and admitted a role in conspiracy to violate federal campaign laws. States are looking into tax fraud; he can’t self-pardon there. _Quid pro quo_ re: Ukraine is vivid but not compelling. Watch for the _quid pro quo_ re: Russia. What’s he done for Putin, and why, and will smoking-gun evidence of treason surface? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/26 "2019-10-26T05:51:36Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I’m not so sure about that though. I can believe that he’s addle-brained enough to think that there really was something there. That’s not relevant. So long as the person who’s been asked for dirt and won’t get what they need until they produce some dirt realizes they do need to produce dirt, dirt will be produced. My cite: years of living in the house of or the same city as a grandfather whose network of informants would have made the CIA envious. Crossing paths with a classmate in front of the train station went from “hey Nick! Going home?” “yep! It’s my mom’s birthday tomorrow! See you on Tuesday, I’m skipping class on Monday!” “Congrats to your mom, see you on Tuesday!” into “Nava and some dude were all over each other in plain view of everybody in the middle of a public square! They all but had their clothes off!”. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/27 "2019-10-26T05:58:43Z")
> [@szabrocki](#): > > Antier > (Spanish) A one-word way of saying the day before yesterday It can mean much more. _Anteayer_. Yesterday is _ayer_. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/28 "2019-10-26T06:44:07Z")
Two years ago, Trump made a very famous comment that [“If somebody called from a country, Norway, [and said] ‘we have information on your opponent’ – oh, I think I’d want to hear it.”](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/id-exclusive-interview-trump-listen-foreigners-offered-dirt/story?id=63669304) The term for this is “over the transom,” no strings attached, information freely volunteered by the third party. The Ukraine matter had money and arms attached, which congress had already allocated and Trump was in no proper position to hold up by that point. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132/29 "2019-10-27T14:56:24Z")
> [@ALOHA\_HATER](#): > > Trump commentary is appropriate in a thread asking for commentaries about Trump. The poster didn’t say anything factually wrong. This is \*not \*a thread asking for commentaries about Trump. Please read OP. The poster offered no facts, only opinion, thinking this was IMHO. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-quid-pro-quo-such-a-key-point/842132.md?page=1)