# Why is Sinai sometimes pronounced with 3 syllables?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 1, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-sinai-sometimes-pronounced-with-3-syllables/703308 "2014-11-01T23:17:43Z")\
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> [@UDS](#):
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> An ‘i’ on its on, with no preceding vowel, is normally _not_ pronounced ‘-igh’. Or did I misunderstand you?

Yes, you misunderstood me. I said -igh, not i.

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> [@njtt](#):
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> it appears that saying it either with or without the extra vowel after the **n** is established English usage.

So it seems. And based on previous replies, there is no obvious basis in the Arabic or Hebrew pronunciation.

I was interested in your tilde suggestion, but it seems there is no palatal nasal sound in either Arabic or Hebrew.

By the way, I was also intrigued by Schama’s pronunciation of Elephantine (a place in Egypt) as ele-fant-eeny. It sounded really odd, and I would have assumed it to be pronounced like the English word elephantine. But when I checked, it turned out to be the correct (or a correct) pronunciation.

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Just resurrecting this thread to mention that Dr Alice Roberts, presenter of the documentary series “The Incredible Human Journey”, clearly used the “signy-eye” pronunciation in episode 1 of that series, when discussing possible migration routes out of Africa.

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They are clearly getting this pronunciation (shifted vowel and extra syllable) [from somewhere](https://books.google.com/books?id=SuBUAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA227); maybe it can be traced back?

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> I don’t have an answer as to where it comes from, but I too have heard the “signy-eye” pronunciation. It’s the way the frighteningly erudite ex-vicar of my church does it, so I presume there’s A Very Good Reason. But I’ve no idea what it is.

I too grew up (in the UK) with the 3-syllable “signy-eye” version - which I too would have heard in church. I see that the variant is noted in the Wikipedia article as a “traditional” pronunciation:

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> In English, the name is now usually pronounced /ˈsaɪnaɪ/. The traditional pronunciation is /ˈsaɪneɪ/ or /ˈ **saɪneɪaɪ** /.

The supporting references are two 19th-century biblical pronunciation guides, if anyone wants to dig further to try to figure out where it originated.

ETA: ninjaed by DPRK, or rather I didn’t notice that he already posted one of those references.

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My guess is that the people who say “sigh-a-nigh” are the same people as the ones who pronounce sherbet “sherbert” and athlete “ath-a-lete.”

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To hijack this, most people say “iz-REAL” but I also hear “iz-RAY-el.” Which is it?

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It’s “IZ-rah-el”, but since English-speakers have a hard time with consecutive open vowels, it ends up sounding like “IZ-rail”.

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> [@hibernicus](#):
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> I was watching the BBC programme _The Story of the Jews_ and I noticed that the presenter, Simon Schama consistently pronounces Sinai as /saɪnɪaɪ/ (sounds like “signy-eye” instead of “sign-eye”).
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> Does this reflect an authentic Arabic or Hebrew pronunciation of the name, or is it just a variant in English that I hadn’t heard before?

When I hear it with 3 syllables, it’s always “sigh a nigh” like cyanide.

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The way I’ve heard it done in 3 syllables is more like SEE-NAAH-EE.

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> The way I’ve heard it done in 3 syllables is more like SEE-NAAH-EE.

:dubious: I have never in my life heard anyone say that. I am also in NY same as you. No one says it that way.

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> The way I’ve heard it done in 3 syllables is more like SEE-NAAH-EE.

This is how it would be pronounced in German, and presumably also in Jiddish

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A person who speaks Spanish might pronounce it that way.

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> [@OldGuy](#):
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> I’ve heard it with three syllables but never signy-eye. I’ve heard sigh-a-nie.

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Same here. “Sigh-uh-nigh” is not an uncommon pronunciation of “Sinai,” in my experience, but I’ve never heard “signy-eye.”

I hear it that way a lot as well (we have hospitals with Sinai in the name). I think it’s a combination of older people that have just always called it that as well as people thinking that’s the actual name.  
That is, I think if you ask someone that says ‘sigh a nie’ to write it, they’ll write ‘siani’ as opposed to ‘sinai’.  
The two words look very similar and if you think it’s spelled Siani, it would be acceptable to say ‘sigh a nie’.  
Take all that and add in that your friends and family all use the same mispronunciation it it just gets reinforced.

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> [@Anaglyph](#):
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> This is how it would be pronounced in German, and presumably also in Jiddish

In Hebrew, it’s “see-NAI”.

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> My guess is that the people who say “sigh-a-nigh” are the same people as the ones who pronounce sherbet “sherbert” and athlete “ath-a-lete.”

Or people who heard it that way before ever seeing the word in print.

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