# Why is "stop" and "no" so fucking hard to understand? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730 "2006-01-06T12:59:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/41 "2006-01-09T19:11:48Z")
**Ob** , I just got back home from a week-long nervous breakdown where my friends were there for me. They saved my life. You are a life-saver. I have no doubt of that. And that’s all I wanted to say. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/42 "2006-01-09T21:34:14Z")
The boyfriend sounds like the kind of guy I’d accidentally kill. I can’t understand how some men could possibly be as terrible as they are. Honestly, sometimes it makes me ashamed to be male. The worst thing is that there are so many guys like this, and whether they’re just manipulative or whether they’re rapist scum they’re the same people, and they’re everywhere. BTW, kudos. You’re a great roommate and your roommate is a great sibling. Best of luck and here’s hoping the prick learns the true meaning of “stop” and “no” while serving hard time. I hear rapists get it the worst. FWIW, life seems to run in cycles. You get your bad years, or even your bad decades, but everything comes around and gets better eventually. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2006, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/43 "2006-01-10T04:29:44Z")
> [@Obsidian](#): > > When my little sister was 13, someone pushed her against a locker and groped her breasts. She broke his nose. The principal called my parents in a started in on “violence is not the answer” As Robert Heinlein put it, ask a Carthaginian whether or not violence ever solves anything. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2006, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/44 "2006-01-10T10:10:17Z")
> [@Steve MB](#): > > As Robert Heinlein put it, ask a Carthaginian whether or not violence ever solves anything. :rolleyes: I agree. There are times when violence is not the answer, but if you’re being assaulted then violence is certainly the goddamn answer. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2006, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/45 "2006-01-10T10:24:03Z")
Violence begets more violence, but a dead rapist never begets nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2006, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/46 "2006-01-10T11:37:45Z")
> [@irishgirl](#): > > **Rashak Mani** - let me bet you that this girl never, ever wants to see this guy again and that if she does run into him again she’ll feel physically ill and scared rather than overcome with lust. > > If there was “too much” drinking, it doesn’t seem to have removed her ability to know when someone was trying to overstep their boundaries in quite the same way it removed that asshole’s ability to act like a civilised human being. > > But then, you’re from macho latin-america… This is so common in the SMDB I don’t even bother usually to respond… I didn’t mean to say she was wrong or stuff like that. - Well as for the excessive drinking I meant her male friend. (She certainly managed to escape) Even if she was piss drunk it wouldn’t justify. - I sure hope she doesn’t go back… but I’ve seen women go back. Its wierd. I just had that impression… and didn’t mind posting it. It will be complicated if when this guy gets out of jail or whatever if they live near one another. - As for the roleplaying I mentioned it because a guy might have to get very rough to manage anything. Just holding down the girl isn’t enough. Still to get away would be hard. That is why I thaught my GFs some simple judo moves that might get them away from someone doing exactly what the OP mentioned. - Actually I’m far from being macho minded thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2006, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/47 "2006-01-10T11:39:53Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > I agree. There are times when violence is not the answer, but if you’re being assaulted then violence is certainly the goddamn answer. I call it self defense… especially if you do enough to get away. To shoot the guy **LATER** … that is violence and solves nothing. You’ll have the guy’s family doing target practice on you. ---
**Author:** ![ms.deanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b3f665/32.png) [@ms.deanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ms.deanna)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2006, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/48 "2006-01-10T14:29:10Z")
> [@fetus](#): > > Violence begets more violence, but a dead rapist never begets nothin’. ``` that's right!!!. I say smoke that punkass muthafucka. i'll help u get rid of the body. :mad: ``` ---
**Author:** ![Obsidian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/51bf81/32.png) [@Obsidian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Obsidian)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/49 "2007-10-14T03:09:31Z")
This seems worth zombifying this thread. . . Said shithead pled guilty this week just before his trial was about to commence and is Going. To. Jail. We see lots of bitching when the criminal justice system fucks up, so I thought I’d share my small, joyous example of justice being served properly. (And, as a bonus, it was served without my friend’s sister having to testify in open court) ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/50 "2007-10-14T03:26:25Z")
Excellent! How’s she doing these days? I’m sure the approach of the bastard’s trial probably stirred up a nasty stew of emotions, even though she wound up not having to testify. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/51 "2007-10-14T03:28:40Z")
Wow. Thanks for the update, I’m glad to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/52 "2007-10-14T03:32:16Z")
[QUOTE=Rashak Mani] I understand that date raping in the USA is quite high too. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=irishgirl] But then, you’re from macho latin-america… [/QUOTE] Kettle, meet pot. And great news Obsidian. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/53 "2007-10-14T08:33:00Z")
Glad to hear it, too. Too often, guys like this go unpunished. Glad to know the system does work sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/54 "2007-10-14T09:14:03Z")
[QUOTE=Obsidian] My roommate was saying to me that he thinks she’s mad at him because he’s not angry enough. He’s a big, menacing looking guy and you’d think he’d be the type to freak out, but he’s not. He’s measured and doesn’t have much of a temper at all. [/QUOTE] Sorry to be months late in saying this, but ‘big mencacing looking guys’ who are _good_ people hold back a great deal just because they don’t want to be pegged as a ‘menace’. Similar to the red race car which looks like it’s going a hunnert miles an hour when it’s sitting still, the ‘big’ man looks like Billy Bad-ass even when he’s not (my hubby is subject to this kind of stereotype daily). Your room-mate did well, very well (as you did too). Glad to hear the dude is going to do time for his crime. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/55 "2007-10-14T13:27:41Z")
I’m glad to hear it. I hope the roomie’s sister is ok. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/56 "2007-10-14T13:52:39Z")
I’m am very sorry the poor girl had to go through this, but happy that justice was served in the end. How long will he be away? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/57 "2007-10-14T15:49:23Z")
deleted due to lack of relevance anymore. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/58 "2007-10-14T18:16:34Z")
[QUOTE=GingerOfTheNorth] I’m glad to hear it. I hope the roomie’s sister is ok. [/QUOTE] Me too. How’s she doing? ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/59 "2007-10-14T20:57:12Z")
I’m very glad to read the update, and I wish roomie’s little sister the best. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-stop-and-no-so-fucking-hard-to-understand/338730/60 "2007-10-14T22:00:28Z")
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