# Why is the Brazilian flag at half-mast today?

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**Created:** [December 14, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977 "2012-12-14T00:52:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.Pu-du-he-pa-as)\
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I walked by the Brazilian embassy today, and the flag was flying at half mast. Why is this?

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/2 "2012-12-14T01:21:59Z")

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[Oscar Niemeyer.](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20649859)

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/3 "2012-12-14T13:37:13Z")

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> [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](#):
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> I walked by the Brazilian embassy today, and the flag was flying at half mast.

Wait? The Brazilian embassy is on a ship?

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**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/4 "2012-12-14T15:06:48Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Wait? The Brazilian embassy is on a ship?

Does it need to be to fly a flag?

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/5 "2012-12-14T15:27:46Z")

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> [@Pitchmeister](#):
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> Does it need to be to fly a flag?

A flag at half-mast? Yes.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/6 "2012-12-14T15:30:06Z")

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A lot of countries and people don’t make the distinction between “mast” and “staff” for the pole on which one flies a flag.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/7 "2012-12-14T15:37:02Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> A flag at half-mast? Yes.

Fucking pedants, pedants everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/8 "2012-12-14T15:45:19Z")

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> [@hrhomer](#):
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> Fucking pedants, pedants everywhere.

And all the boards did shrink.

> [@hrhomer](#):
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> Fucking pedants, pedants everywhere.

Nor any drop to drink.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/9 "2012-12-14T18:07:11Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> And all the boards did shrink.
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> Nor any drop to drink.

And all averred I’d killed a word,  
which caused this thread to flow.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/10 "2012-12-14T18:53:12Z")

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Instead of the cross, the pedant  
About my neck was hung

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/11 "2012-12-14T18:54:07Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> A flag at half-mast? Yes.

Incorrect. While the typical term used in the US is “half staff,” it is still correct to use “half-mast” even if the flag is not on a ship.

From [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com):

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> half-mast (hfmst, häfmäst) n.  
> The position about halfway up a mast or pole at which a flag is flown as a symbol of mourning for the dead or as a signal of distress. Also called half-staff.  
> tr.v. half-mast·ed, half-mast·ing, half-masts  
> To place (a flag) halfway up a mast or pole.

From [Wiki:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-mast)

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> In the US, the term “half-mast” is commonly used colloquially to refer to half-staff, although US law and military tradition indicate that “half-mast” is generally reserved to usage aboard a ship, where flags are typically flown from masts.[3][4] Not all English-speaking nations observe this distinction.[5]

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> The Flag of Australia is flown half-mast in Australia:

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> The term half-mast is used in place of half-staff in Canada[6] and is not distinguished within the country’s flag code.

[Australian War Memorial: flags at half mast](http://www.awm.gov.au/commemoration/customs/flags.asp)

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Incorrect. While the typical term used in the US is “half staff,” it is still correct to use “half-mast” even if the flag is not on a ship.

I refuse to acknowledge this unless done in the style of Coleridge. Rime, Kubla Kahn or Christabel are all acceptable.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-brazilian-flag-at-half-mast-today/643977/13 "2012-12-14T20:14:39Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I refuse to acknowledge this unless done in the style of Coleridge. Rime, Kubla Kahn or Christabel are all acceptable.

From Brasilia, their embassy  
did fly a flag at half the mast.  
But “Ack!” a pendant made a scree:  
“It’s staffs by land and masts by the sea!”  
A law that grammar lambastes.
