Why is the U.S. Army changing the basic color of everyday service uniforms AGAIN?

The new WWII cosplay uniforms the Army is going to is not exactly like the WWII uniforms. The pinks and greens were only an officer uniform. With the enlisted uniform the coat and pants were the same color. With the new uniform both enlisted and officer will have the lighter colored pants.

The reflective belt wear requirement during daylight hours got killed during his tenure. IMO that earns him at least one other major change, even a bad one, without quibbling or bitching. :smiley:

When I worked on an airbase the old timers told me tales of how every few years you’d get a new base commander, and their goal was to have something on there ‘resume’ that they did at the base, and so every new commander would have some new thing the base had to do, just so the commander could have their little check box filled. Wonder if the uniforms isn’t the same thing by someone higher up.

Because I’m sure if you asked the troops, they could find far more important things that need fixing than the damn uniform colors.

Yeah, I know. I told you what my Army pals have said why they don’t like the current uniform.

The point is that the Army personnel that I see every day went from wearing green to blue and they’re going back to green. From my point of views, that’s changing colors from green to blue to green.

And a huge part of the reason to wear a uniform is to be immediately recognizable not only within your organization but also outside it.

I understand. Same thing in the AF when I was in. The uniforms just change every few years.

From my outside perspective, the common daily Air Force service uniform has been blue and recognizable as pretty much the same uniform—basically a variation of a blue business suit—almost since the Air Force was created. I don’t think the shade of blue has been significantly changed, from a common observer’s perspective. I recall a brief attempt to make the Air Force uniform look more like a Navy uniform, but I don’t actually recall seeing anyone wearing that uniform.

The common daily Navy uniform has been dark (“navy”) blue in the winter and white in the summer consistently for many decades. I know there’s also a khaki-colored uniform, but I still recognize the navy blue or white uniforms as the commonly known navy uniform.

From my point of view, I don’t see Air Force and Navy uniforms changing every few years. The every day uniform worn by officers commuting to work or attending meetings in government offices has stayed very consistent in overall appearance.

There might have been minor changes from year-to-year amounting to an overall evolution, but I don’t recall any radical change in basic color, and certainly not multiple times.

I’m still waiting to see the Space Force uniform.

Best uniforms in history. Everyone tells me, they’re the best. There have never been, and I know, you can ask me, better uniforms than these.

Meanwhile, Navy came up with working uniforms with camo, making them awfully Army- or Marine-esque.

The rationale for a service needing camouflage uniforms when its personnel rarely see the folks who are trying to kill them? It hides grease spots better. :dubious:

I like the classic, WWII look. I’m glad they’re reverting to the classic Army look.

You won’t be laughing when the seeker on a Kalibre missile is spoofed by the sailors camo.:p:D

I think it a reasonable conjecture that United States Space Force (USSF) soldiers will wear orange space suits. Like astronauts.

I like the change–frankly the color mismatch between jacket and pants on the dress blues has always driven me buggy. It looks like laundry day when you’re grabbing whatever’s clean whether it matches or not. Either make the pants match the jacket or go for a stronger contrast that’s actually in the same family of blue, just…not that. Matching blues is deceptively difficult and whoever okayed that combo was basically color blind.

Even if it is created, the odds of a Space Force trooper going into space not under the auspices of NASA are zero.

They are all just going to sit behind different varieties of desks. Maybe some will do inspections of satellite factories or whatnot, but otherwise, they will wear whatever is most comfortable for the real chair force.

As mentioned there is always a tweak here and a tweak there – nut I have noticed an increased frequency that IMO is a phenomenon of the 21st Century Army seeking some look that will distinguish them from the Army of the 80s and 90s (AG office wear, BDU field wear), whose look got too quickly copied by every Fudd and Blart out there, AND that would become iconically recognizable. Plus for some reason I can’t fathom, there seems to have been an intense multigenerational dislike of the AG class A suit by some in the Army for decades.

In the early 80s they had followed the Air Force’s lead in doing something sensible: use one single pattern and color of “office wear” uniform whereby you could switch from dressier to business casual by ditching the jacket and to summer by losing the tie with a short sleeve shirt. But then as they keps expanding the situations in which you could just wear the camo fieldwear, in the 00’s they decided to go one step further and consolidate the officewear version with the special-ocassion dress version, and they kind of botched it by upgrading all the way to the Dress Blues. Originally the everyday version was supposed to have a grey shirt, but there were procurement problems so they went completely to what had been the ceremonial version.

The WWII ‘pinks and greens’ were changed in part because after the war there were millions of surplus uniforms, and they were sold to the public for work clothes. So the military suddenly had the problem that their uniforms looked like the clothes farmers were wearing, and there could be confusion if civilians in surplus army uniforms wore the same as current soldiers.

But it has now been long enough that all that surplus clothing is gone, so the army is free to go back. And I’m glad they did - I always thought the pinks and greens were great looking uniforms.

Now that’s interesting. Does that explain why you see pictures from the 50’s where everyone from milkmen to truck drivers wore a uniform? They were surplus?

Huge quantities were sold off, and many state institutions bought them for clothing road workers. Prisons also issued them to inmates on work parties, which didn’t do anything for the uniform’s image.

Yep, my dad had actually commented on the pants being called ‘pinks’ back in the 1980s, when we went to a football game at our alma mater (Texas A&M. The cadets were wearing the winter dress uniforms, which for all intents and purposes have been the ‘pinks and greens’ ever since the end of WWII, probably because they were able to get them cheap.