# Why is the "Virtue Signalling" thread still in MPSIMS? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 8, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871 "2021-06-08T20:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871/1 "2021-06-08T20:58:50Z")
Thread in question: > [@Virtue signaling? Cowardice? Or other (race relations topic)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821): > > My company took part in an outdoor garden show this weekend, and as part of our display we placed “Please do not sit on the furniture” signs on the chairs we had as part of it (there are many reasons for this which for now does not appear germane to the story). Furthermore, the furniture was under a pergola where there was a lot of shade, and many customers stopped to rest within the protection of the pergola, many while making joking comments about not being able to sit. Out of nowhere, despi… OP is clearly soliciting opinions, and about controversial matters, why isn’t it in IMHO? My own feeling (which others may not share) was that the OP was fully deserving of some harsh responses as a wake-up call, given the self-pitying manner in which he framed his “problem”. But I note the following comments from mods: > [@Virtue signaling? Cowardice? Or other (race relations topic)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/18): > > …A lot of the responses to the OP seem a bit hostile for MPSIPS, given the story that started this discussion. > > Guys, this isn’t great debates or P&E, it’s MPSIMS. Questions, disagreement and well-meaning advice are expected… > [@Virtue signaling? Cowardice? Or other (race relations topic)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/36): > > I grant that some of the replies are snarky (and I don’t appreciate them) I think if a post solicits opinions, we should be free to give them, and to express them robustly. Obviously if someone crosses the line to just being a jerk that’s a different matter, and that would apply to all subforums. But the snarky and sarcastic responses conveyed important and valid points. I don’t think a thread like this should be assigned some sort of vague “IMHO-lite” status by being left in MPSIMS, where only milquetoast opinions that are gentler to the OP’s feelings are welcome (if that’s supposed to be the etiquette in MPSIMS). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871/2 "2021-06-09T00:28:44Z")
I notice you cut off the part of my post that criticized the op’s reaction to advice. But i see your point about it being better suited for IMHO. Oddly, i saw some requests to pit it, but this is the first suggestion I’ve seen for IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871/3 "2021-06-09T00:38:12Z")
Decided you are right and moved it. I doubt that will help much, but posters will have a better idea what to expect when they open it, i suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871/4 "2021-06-09T00:55:18Z")
Would the mod response have been different in IMHO? I thought the standards were roughly equivalent in both forums since they both have the no insult rule and snarky comments are close to insults. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871/5 "2021-06-09T00:57:48Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I notice you cut off the part of my post that criticized the op’s reaction to advice. I didn’t intend any misrepresentation, but I didn’t think that part of your moderation was relevant to my point. And, incidentally, I think that part of your moderation might have been based on a misunderstanding of what OP wrote here: > [@Virtue signaling? Cowardice? Or other (race relations topic)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/virtue-signaling-cowardice-or-other-race-relations-topic/943821/3): > > So I should chalk you off as “Virtue Signaling”? 😀 😀 😀 I think you misunderstood this to be OP accusing @Grrr of virtue signalling? But that’s not what this comment means. OP had originally asked how to categorize his _own_ behavior, listing virtue signalling as one possibility. OP was just saying that he understood @Grrr’s stated opinion to mean that @Grrr thought _OP himself_ was virtue signaling. To paraphrase - > So if there were a poll on my behavior, I should put your verdict down as “virtue signalling”. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871/6 "2021-06-09T01:37:37Z")
Well, you’re probably right about that, too. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-virtue-signalling-thread-still-in-mpsims/943871/7 "2021-06-09T01:58:00Z")
Well, I did a double take on the comment too, “chalk you off as” isn’t idiomatic in my dialect. I would have said something like “put you down for”.