Why is this site overwhelmingly atheist?

I think the intent of the prophecies was to allow God to broadcast something he was going to do at a later date. As an omnipotent being, he can be pretty certain that no one is going to prevent those events from happening, and he can be pretty certain that he will have the ability to pull them off, however strange they might be.

E.g., if I tell you that in 4 days, the President of Turkmenthuania is going to die, that could either be a prediction of the future, or simply me sharing with you my intent to assassinate the President of Turkmenthuania in 4 days. The latter isn’t future-telling.

And I imagine that God would only lose money at the racetrack if he allowed the race to go forward without intervention.

If a supreme being (or a human) who knew ahead of time his child would cause great harm , We would not have that child. I do not know ahead of time what my child would do, but I would not give my child a gun to kill someone. If this is so, then God is not all loving, caring, or benign. But since we would consider such a human evil why would we think a supreme being is better?

Yes, but they only wear them for special occasions.

but - god has a plan - he must allow evil to show how good he is.

If he would just get rid of all evil, I’d be willing to take his word on his being good.

but how would you know what ‘good’ is without ‘evil’ to compare it to?

what if he took out good and declared evil good - what then? huh, huh?

Ýou’d get what we have now?

" 'When I use a word,’ God said, in a rather scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.’ "
-Alice In Heavenland

You only see evil now? How would you know evil if you don’t know good?

good quote.

Oh, now you’re plagiarizing Lewis Carroll.

unfounded accusation and an idiotic post.
its not plagiarism- its parody

its not plagiarism, as its actually a twist based on Lewis Carroll’s work - which would fall under fair use (see parody, again)

Even if it were, in fact, plagiarism, you’re directing the accusation at the wrong person.

If the followers of the son of god, who was descended from among god’s chosen people, determined through the teaching of god’s only son that it is appropriate to kill the descendants of god’s own chosen people, I would guess that the effect of the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil upon the descendants of Adam and Eve was a matter of false advertising.

“knowledge of good and evil” only suggest that before the eating of the fruit - they had no basis to know what ws good or evil - that all things were “just so”.

Which begs the question how they would know that disobeying god would be a bad thing.

or that talking snakes were evil - after all, they had been following the guidance of a “voice” for sometime then.

However - the mere concept that a human sacrifice was needed to appease God - that, without any further thought - is pure evil.

Except, it is not entirely clear what this “sacrifice” was. A few hours of discomfort and indignity, they a brief dirtnap, then he hops up and goes on about his biz (according to the Gospel of John, he went and did a bunch more fun stuff before ascending into heaven to be at his father’s side). For an immortal creature, in the scope of eternal life, it seems pretty piddling, that little crucifiction event.

We’re on the same page overall - but

Modern Christianity - by and large - treats it as a “sacrifice” - and that it was intense - that he died - that he came back.

That GOD chose to resurrect him is immaterial to the fact that the sacrifice was required in the first place - By GOD.

Makes it seem even more problematic that he killed him just to bring him back.

John 3:16, etc,

We can change what we want to do. If God cannot, we are more powerful than he is in a sense, which means he is not god. Anyhow I covered this in my first post on this subject - it is not what he wants to do, it is what he can do. My saying I don’t want to flap my wings and fly doesn’t mean that I have that power if I chose to use it.

Biblical prophecies seldom have the hand of God in them. (Jesus returning is an exception.) Look at the many gloom and doom prophecies in the OT. Did they come true because of the misbehavior of Judea, or did God make them come true?

And if prophecies come true because of god - and they depend on many factors - then it means that God is controlling everything and we don’t have free will. Omniscience in the standard sense just might mean that God knows how we will exercise our free will - no problem there since we aren’t omnipotent - but not omniscience through control.

This all is a great example of how the God concept is easy to say (like four-sided triangles) but is logically incoherent.

You’re referring to the informal fallacy of false dilemma. The law of excluded middle stipulates that either p or ~p must be the case.

This is amazing. Eight pages, and the OP has never posted again. He didn’t even have a good OP. It didn’t even make sense.

How come I can’t get think kind of response to my threads?

You don’t have God on your side.