# Why is VCO3 a racial-stereotyping moron?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 26, 2007, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713 "2007-04-26T10:40:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/41 "2007-04-26T17:16:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
Like people who don’t vote, words are just lip service until you step your ass up to the plate and do it. Where the rubber meets the road as it were. :dubious:  
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No, the rubber is on the pitcher’s mound. If you step up to the plate, you’re 60.5 feet or so away from the rubber, (and who wants to give lip service with a rubber?), and if the rubber meets the road, it means that some vandal has pried it off the mound and thrown it across the parking lot. (Mixing metaphors is like tossing a salad or cookies.)

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/42 "2007-04-26T17:26:27Z")

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**VC03** specializes in acting like an asshole.

He thinks being offensive makes him edgy and interesting.

It doesn’t and he isn’t. Just about everything he posts amounts to a juvenile demand, “Look at _meeeeei_! Now! You aren’t paying enough attention to me, me, me!”

His blatherings are worthless. He just jerks off here for the shock value.

Waste of pixels, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/43 "2007-04-26T17:31:32Z")

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[QUOTE=TVeblen]  
Just about everything he posts amounts to a juvenile demand, “Look at _meeeeei_! Now! You aren’t paying enough attention to me, me, me!”  
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If that’s the case, he’s gonna get in trouble.

That phrase is currently the subject of a heated copyright battle between Terrell Owens and Britney Spears.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/44 "2007-04-26T17:32:41Z")

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I don’t know. Maybe it’s just because I haven’t been paying that much attention to VCO3 (until I read this thread I hadn’t realized how many of those posts were all written by the same person) but I see him more as clueless rather than malicious.

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**Author:** ![Viridiana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Viridiana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Viridiana)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/45 "2007-04-26T17:43:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]

Two: a friend of mine, bordeline racist himself, was hurling insults at them too, and was one of the more vocal protesters. Which was odd, and says something about psychology- I’m not sure what. Thus my earlier question.  
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Well, it’s not that weird; one, does _he_ think he is borderline racist, or just normail? And two, it really depends on how an organization presents itself. I love animals and am in favor of the animal rights movement in general, but damned if PETA doesn’t just piss me off.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/46 "2007-04-26T17:49:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Viridiana]  
Well, it’s not that weird; one, does _he_ think he is borderline racist, or just normail? And two, it really depends on how an organization presents itself. I love animals and am in favor of the animal rights movement in general, but damned if PETA doesn’t just piss me off.  
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Excellent point! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/47 "2007-04-26T17:56:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Shoshana]  
Damn, my coffee-colored brother. It makes me want to bang you even though I am [Persian ass.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=418221)  
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Cool thread, but in it somebody asked what does ethnicity have anything to do with it, and my thoughts go back to a girl I had a crush on from India. I finally got the courage to ask her out and she told me that she would love to (apparently she liked me too), but her parents forbid her to date anybody white, black, or any color other than that which comes from India (she didn’t state it, but I suspected it had more to do with religion or beliefs than skin color).

Anyway, a bit of a hijack, but caste, color and creed often play a significant role in dating. As sad as it is.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/48 "2007-04-26T17:59:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
I don’t know. Maybe it’s just because I haven’t been paying that much attention to VCO3 (until I read this thread I hadn’t realized how many of those posts were all written by the same person) but I see him more as clueless rather than malicious.  
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I vote clueless rather than malicious as well. It’s as if he posts on impulse before the critical faculties of intelligent reason kick in (if they ever do, at all). I don’t think a lot of his opinions are particularly controversial, but his expression lacks tact and is often greatly overstated.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/49 "2007-04-26T18:02:01Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
No, the rubber is on the pitcher’s mound. If you step up to the plate, you’re 60.5 feet or so away from the rubber, (and who wants to give lip service with a rubber?), and if the rubber meets the road, it means that some vandal has pried it off the mound and thrown it across the parking lot. (Mixing metaphors is like tossing a salad or cookies.)  
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Are you giving me shit ? I thought you were the nice one. That’s what **Valteron** said 😛

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/50 "2007-04-26T18:25:30Z")

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Well, it is our mission statement isn’t it? Fighting ignorance.

**VCO3** certainly came in with some ignorant views on things and we certainly did our job in attempting to fight them.

Whether we got through to him or not I guess we’ll never know.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/51 "2007-04-26T18:45:02Z")

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Wow, what a great thread to wake up to! :rolleyes:

I’m truly - _truly_ amazed by the behavior exhibited by most posters in this thread, and in my recent “Why are black people so loud?” thread. Out of hundreds of replies, two posters have sanely mentioned things like

> [@](#):
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> This exact topic is the basis for the entire act of about 25% of the comics on the BET comedy show, so its not like he/she pulled the concept out of his/her ass.

The other dogpile responders haven’t even _acknowledged_ those points!

I’m not hurt, upset, or offended, I’m just honestly surprised - I really thought this place was above that. It’s apparently turned into an incredibly juvenile, recreational outrage on each other “Fight Club” where people completely disregard giving OP’s any sort of legitimate discussion, and instead launch right into the fun and funny insult pile-ons. When did everyone here turn 12? When did this turn into Something Awful?

I mean, are you going to seriously pretend that it isn’t a complete cultural meme that black people are loud? That black people don’t drink coffee? That black people don’t go camping? Turn on BET and you’ve got a good two hours’ worth of black standup right there. I understand that it’s fun to be offended and to declare other people OMG RACISTS, but Jesus Christ, try reading an OP and THINKING about it sometime instead of letting it hit your little mental landmind joy buzzer of recreational offendedness.

You’d think that my OP was “Kill the niggar jew abortin’ pro-life Pope’s shylocking baby!” for the types of reactions that it’s gotten. It’s nothing of the sort; it’s not racist, not incindiary, and I even went ahead and put that “please be adults” disclaimer to try to avoid this sort of monkey cage panic. Good luck; there are people posting that haven’t even read the OP, but see the word “black” and FREAK OUT…AHHHHHHH!. Ridiculous.

Be fucking adults. Make this a decent message board again. Stop the recreational outrage Fight Club - which is even more detrimental to this place than RO news item pit threads.

This shit is fucking embarrassing for the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/52 "2007-04-26T18:46:51Z")

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> I mean, are you going to seriously pretend that it isn’t a complete cultural meme that black people are loud? That black people don’t drink coffee? That black people don’t go camping?

Yes, yes, yes.

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/53 "2007-04-26T18:47:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Epimetheus]  
Cool thread, but in it somebody asked what does ethnicity have anything to do with it, and my thoughts go back to a girl I had a crush on from India. I finally got the courage to ask her out and she told me that she would love to (apparently she liked me too), but her parents forbid her to date anybody white, black, or any color other than that which comes from India (she didn’t state it, but I suspected it had more to do with religion or beliefs than skin color).

Anyway, a bit of a hijack, but caste, color and creed often play a significant role in dating. As sad as it is.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, as long as attitudes like **Grossbottom’s** exist (see [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=418221)), I can’t say I blame them. (Not dissing **Grossbottom** necessarily, but there is this sort of weird feel to the OP regarding “Persian chicks.”)

Personally I’m not in favor of anyone stopping anybody from dating who they like. I do get uncomfortable around some White guys I’ve known who are into “Asian chicks,” “Black chicks,” “Indian chicks,” and so forth. I knew a White guy who dated exclusively Black women, and I thought it was a little strange, like he had a fetish or something. But it’s a free world. People are welcome to pursue whomever they like for whatever reasons they like. I can see parents having a problem with this (though their reasons may be more rooted in racism and ethnocentrism).

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/54 "2007-04-26T18:51:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Hampshire]  
Whether we got through to him or not I guess we’ll never know.  
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I think we know, now.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/55 "2007-04-26T19:01:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
Your post is hilarious, and if the reservoir part is a joke its priceless, and if it is not a joke, well…  
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I wish it was a joke, [but it’s not.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407159)

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/56 "2007-04-26T19:03:53Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
This shit is fucking embarrassing for the SDMB.  
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You got that part right.

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**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/57 "2007-04-26T19:07:13Z")

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[QUOTE=bigbabysweets2000]  
You forgot this jewel :[Is it offensive for me to refer to black people as “brothers?”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=402521)

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Oh my god.

> [@](#):
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> I do this all of the time; if I’m trying to refer to an inspecific black guy, I’ll say “He was the brother who came in wearing the red baseball cap last week” or I’ll say, “Did you see the group of brothers hanging out outside the taco joint?”
> 
> Is this weird or offensive? (I’m white)

What rock did this guy crawl out from under? What a fucking idiot.

Oh, and Earth to VCO3:

> [@](#):
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> I mean, are you going to seriously pretend that it isn’t a complete cultural meme that black people are loud? That black people don’t drink coffee? That black people don’t go camping? Turn on BET and you’ve got a good two hours’ worth of black standup right there.

You are not a black stand-up comic. Dumb ass.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/58 "2007-04-26T19:10:04Z")

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> I mean, are you going to seriously pretend that it isn’t a complete cultural meme that black people are loud? That black people don’t drink coffee? That black people don’t go camping?

I’ve heard, and even experienced, the first. Never even heard of the second two: WTF?

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/59 "2007-04-26T19:18:37Z")

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Note for you guys getting flack for your insulting generalizations of black people: alluding to BET comics as if they’re the prophets of blackdom does not help your case.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-vco3-a-racial-stereotyping-moron/401713/60 "2007-04-26T19:21:39Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
Wow, what a great thread to wake up to!  
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Why do white people sleep so LATE?

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