# Why isn't Europe enough for the white race? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 28, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438 "2012-12-28T23:01:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/141 "2013-01-04T12:55:15Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Christ, whatever you want. Your “proof” (scare quote included) stands/falls on it’s own after that. “Personal albedo”. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/142 "2013-01-04T23:59:38Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Christ, whatever you want. Your “proof” (scare quote included) stands/falls on it’s own after that. For which of the following: Patents Weaponry Civil engineering Transportation Industrial technology Scientific advances Agricultural advances Medicine… would you like to advance examples of sub-saharan populations leading the way in innovation now or in the past? I do not question that pockets of advancement exist here and there all over the world, including parts of africa on occasion (the Mali empire might be an example, although it seems to me it flourished more vigorously after contact with Islamic sources). I do question that a general pattern of innovation and advancement in any of these areas is well-represented by sub-saharan populations. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/143 "2013-01-05T02:47:19Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Given that even a wild fox can be domesticated with the proper breeding, I find, for example, the assertion that domestication of wild animals was unavailable to africans suspect. Also suspect for me is the lack of knowledge transfer among populations. Some populations seem to be able to swipe stuff developed elsewhere (gunpowder) and expand upon it. Other populations seem to be permanently dependent on imported technology which remains essentially unimproved within that population..but perhaps a specific thread on GGaS belongs elsewhere. Domesticate a wild fox and one winds up with a pet or, possibly, a watchdog. Until one is able to domesticate (not tame individual) zebras or Cape buffaloes, your suspicions remain unfounded. As to your broad claims for societies, I think you very conveniently ignore actual history in your dismissal. Societies lucky enough to develop first had more infrastructure with which to employ any breakthrough they stole from other societies. Various political conflicts encouraged or inhibited development in specific societies. At a certain point, technical development began to grow exponentially so that a society that appeared to have only a small edge over a different society actually had a far greater capacity to suppress it. I suspect that pretty much all the societies that you would hold to be permanently dependent have explicit histories of suppression by societies that you would consider to be able to do things on their own, simply because those societies had the fortune or misfortune to have gotten off the ground at earlier or later points. That was Diamond’s thesis and, even with minor legitimate criticisms of smaller points, I have seen no serious criticism to challenge his basic thesis. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/144 "2013-01-05T13:49:15Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > For which of the following: > Patents > Weaponry > Civil engineering > Transportation > Industrial technology > Scientific advances > Agricultural advances > Medicine… > > would you like to advance examples of sub-saharan populations leading the way in innovation now or in the past? > > I do not question that pockets of advancement exist here and there all over the world, including parts of africa on occasion (the Mali empire might be an example, although it seems to me it flourished more vigorously after contact with Islamic sources). I do question that a general pattern of innovation and advancement in any of these areas is well-represented by sub-saharan populations. I’m not advancing examples of shit. I wanted you to clarify **who** and **what** you are talking about in your _wink, wink, nudge, nudge_ game. Surprise, surprise… “populations” = “sub-saharan populations” Now with that mystery solved, why would you claim that they are unable to develop technology? In other words, what is **your** “proof.” What are **you** basing that claim on? ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/145 "2013-01-05T14:10:35Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > I’m not advancing examples of shit. I wanted you to clarify **who** and **what** you are talking about in your _wink, wink, nudge, nudge_ game. Surprise, surprise… “populations” = “sub-saharan populations” > > Now with that mystery solved, why would you claim that they are unable to develop technology? In other words, what is **your** “proof.” What are **you** basing that claim on? Patent applications. Relative sophistication of locally-developed weaponry. Relative sophistication of locally-developed civil engineering techniques. Releative sophistication of locally-developed transportation systems. Relative locally-developed innovation for industrial technology. Relative number of contributions to scientific advances. Relative number of locally-developed agricultural advances. Relative number of contributions to medical advances. ---
**Author:** ![Gavelbrook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@Gavelbrook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gavelbrook)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/146 "2013-01-05T16:15:58Z")
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**Author:** ![Gavelbrook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@Gavelbrook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gavelbrook)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/147 "2013-01-05T16:17:55Z")
> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#): > > The current human race started in Africa and spread to Asia & Europe. This would indicate that we are merely carrying on the traits of our dark-skinned ancestors. > > **Clearly, black people have only themselves to blame for all of their problems.** High five. Lighter to an oil spill. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/148 "2013-01-05T16:39:46Z")
> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#): > > The current human race started in Africa and spread to Asia & Europe. This would indicate that we are merely carrying on the traits of our dark-skinned ancestors. Plus, of course, any traits developed or lost subsequent to leaving africa. (Although, based on various posts around this board, it would appear Creationism is the dominant accepted explanation for human genetic egalitarianism. Evolution and the history of human migrations are apparently not widely accepted.) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/149 "2013-01-05T17:01:59Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > (Although, based on various posts around this board, it would appear Creationism is the dominant accepted explanation for human genetic egalitarianism. Evolution and the history of human migrations are apparently not widely accepted.) You keep repeating your silly insults. You have a lot more in common with the Creationists and anti-vaxxers- you’re certain of a genetic explanation with _no genetic evidence_. And, like those bozos, you reject any historical or scientific data that conflicts with your own unscientific narrative. In the 19th century conflicts between the Chinese and the British Empire, the Chinese were obliterated on their own turf. Is this a reflection of genetics, or other factors? The British actually had a far easier time against the Chinese in the Opium wars then they did against the Zulus a few decades later. Is this because Zulu genetics are superior to Chinese, or is it because of other factors? Trying to assign genetics as the reason for the winners and losers of various long-term historical conflicts _with no genetic evidence_ is just as ridiculous. You have no evidence. You have immense and obvious biases. Go home and think about what you’ve claimed, with no evidence, about billions of people. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/150 "2013-01-05T17:37:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Y The British actually had a far easier time against the Chinese in the Opium wars then they did against the Zulus a few decades later. Since I happen to be reading James Grant’s 1894 account\* of the Zulu wars as we speak by pure coincidence (it’s actually kind of boring, and it’s taking me a while to get through it), let me just address the Zulus as an example. Spectacular fighters. Their local-developed weaponry was the assegai spear, which they refined with advances such as creating a shaft that would break off when impaled so that shafts left behind could not be re-used by enemies. The British had cannon and guns, including breech loaders and bullets. The British were prosecuting a war some distance from their homeland and in many battles were outmanned, outwitted and out-maneuvered. I don’t know how to compare one war with another, but I am unsure how comparing the Zulu war with other conflicts is a mechanism by which to compare innovation, since the practical aspects of prosecuting a war (especially on foreign turf) extends beyond technological innovation. I am not aware the Zulus (or peoples of sub-saharan africa, then or now) really progressed beyond the spear for locally-developed weaponry, but I’d be interested in reading sources you have. The knowledge transfer for how to create and innovate wrt weapons does not seem to have deeply penetrated the sub-saharan populations, and even today most modern weaponry is imported, I believe. \*Military History from Primary Sources: The Zulu War Through Contemporary Eyes (contains an excerpt from Grant’s “British Battles on Land and Sea” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/151 "2013-01-05T17:47:14Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Since I happen to be reading James Grant’s 1894 account\* of the Zulu wars as we speak by pure coincidence (it’s actually kind of boring, and it’s taking me a while to get through it), let me just address the Zulus as an example. > > Spectacular fighters. Their local-developed weaponry was the assegai spear, which they refined with advances such as creating a shaft that would break off when impaled so that shafts left behind could not be re-used by enemies. The British had cannon and guns, including breech loaders and bullets. The British were prosecuting a war some distance from their homeland and in many battles were outmanned, outwitted and out-maneuvered. > > I don’t know how to compare one war with another, but I am unsure how comparing the Zulu war with other conflicts is a mechanism by which to compare innovation, since the practical aspects of prosecuting a war (especially on foreign turf) extends beyond technological innovation. So when examples (like the Zulu wars vs the Opium wars) run counter to your narrative, they can be dismissed. You ask for an example, an example is provided, and you dismiss it. How unsurprising. I won’t waste time by finding more for you to brush away. > [@](#): > > I am not aware the Zulus (or peoples of sub-saharan africa, then or now) really progressed beyond the spear for locally-developed weaponry, but I’d be interested in reading sources you have. Do the native weapons developed in Japan and Polynesia provide any insight into Japanese or Polynesian genetics? Why do they for any other part of the world? Let me guess- these are more examples for you to dismiss, for one reason or another. > [@](#): > > The knowledge transfer for how to create and innovate wrt weapons does not seem to have deeply penetrated the sub-saharan populations, and even today most modern weaponry is imported, I believe. So are most automobiles. Because of genetics, or because the big auto companies are from other countries? Considering economic differences, it’s laughable to assign any link to weapons or other technology between countries or regions and genetics. Finland imports most of their automobiles and weapons too. Is this because of genetics? You’re really reaching here. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/152 "2013-01-05T18:01:36Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Finland imports most of their automobiles and weapons too. Is this because of genetics? You’re really reaching here. The reach is to pretend that you don’t know how to evaluate innovation, and that a given war is a good proxy for intellectual competence. I would say both the Chinese (hint: nuclear weapons) and Finns (Nokia 🙂 ; 10,000 patent applications as of 2008 ) have reasonable examples for innovation to the casual observer. Would you like to list some innovations for sub-saharan african populations, or pursue some sort of other silly non-starter? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/153 "2013-01-05T18:14:05Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > The reach is to pretend that you don’t know how to evaluate innovation, and that a given war is a good proxy for intellectual competence. You implied that because sub-saharan African countries import weapons, this indicates something about genetics. This is just a ridiculous implication, though perhaps par for the course for someone who has no interest in any conflicting data- you just dismiss it out hand. You just love to find conveniently non-quantitative concepts (like innovation, the nebulous “nurture”, etc.) to support your evidence-free assertions. We get it- you think black people are naturally and intrinsically dumber- and there’s nothing anyone can offer to change your mind. Your pitiful reaching becomes more and more clear with each post- the comical assertion that weapons-importing can tell us something about genetics is just the latest example. Please, tell us something about how papaya-growing vs rice-paddy statistics teach us so much about the genetic potential of different countries. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/154 "2013-01-05T19:55:24Z")
At Orcenio’s request, I listed a number of areas where I think significant innovation or intellectual advances have been deficient for sub saharan populations. You presented two conflicts, which I took as a proposal for the example of weaponry innovation. This example fails. Do you have other examples of sub-saharan innovation or intellectual achievements to advance? If so, please do. Incorrectly restating the opponent’s position is not an effective way to win a debate. If you are unable to cogently state my position, please use quotes and let me know exactly which statement you are taking issue with. A confused misrepresentation is not of interest to me to defend or clarify. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/155 "2013-01-05T19:59:11Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > You presented two conflicts, apparently as a counter proposal for the example of weaponry innovation. This example fails. No, it succeeded. It succeeded in showing the ridiculousness in using such historical events as a basis for genetics- because there are historical events that show any number of things. It also succeeded in showing how you dismiss and discount any evidence, no matter what it is or what type, that might run contrary to your narrative. It’s pointless for me to keep bringing more examples up, just for you to hand-wave them away. It’s incredibly unscientific. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/156 "2013-01-05T20:06:34Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Do you have other examples of sub-saharan innovation or intellectual achievements to advance? If so, please do. That depends. Do you mean achievements by sub-Saharan nations/cultures, or by persons of sub-Saharan heredity? [There are many examples of the latter.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists) ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/157 "2013-01-05T21:43:35Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Patent applications. [ [QUOTE=WIPO statistics database. Last updated: November 2012] 12 - Resident applications per million population, total count by origin, 2000 to 2011 Rank-----Amount-----Origin 1-----65912-----Liechtenstein 2-----32226-----Japan 3-----27199-----Republic of Korea 4-----10939-----Switzerland 5-----10561-----Germany 6-----8465-----United States of America 7-----8115-----Finland 8-----7451-----Monaco 9-----7409-----Sweden 10-----6791-----Luxembourg 11-----6390-----Denmark 12-----6351-----Netherlands 13-----4940-----Austria 14-----4936-----New Zealand 15-----4596-----United Kingdom 16-----4228-----France 17-----3466-----Ireland 18-----3404-----Norway 19-----3148-----Iceland 20-----2477-----Belgium 21-----2303-----World 22-----2189-----Slovenia 23-----2157-----Russian Federation 24-----2079-----Israel 25-----1830-----Singapore 26-----1732-----Canada 27-----1650-----Belarus 28-----1455-----Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea 29-----1432-----Australia 30-----1298-----China 31-----1276-----Italy 32-----1125-----Spain 33-----969-----Hungary 34-----896-----Croatia 35-----890-----Republic of Moldova 36-----867-----Czech Republic 37-----866-----Ukraine 38-----839-----Latvia 39-----836-----Poland 40-----803-----Kazakhstan 41-----733-----Malta 42-----599-----Romania 43-----574-----Armenia 44-----562-----Greece 45-----562-----Georgia 46-----514-----Slovakia 47-----454-----Estonia 48-----410-----Bulgaria 49-----387-----Serbia 50-----371-----Portugal 51-----364-----Mongolia 52-----353-----Cyprus 53-----325-----Azerbaijan 54-----301-----T F Y R of Macedonia 55-----292-----Lithuania 56-----287-----Malaysia 57-----275-----Turkey 58-----257-----Chile 59-----233-----China, Hong Kong SAR 60-----227-----Iran (Islamic Republic of) 61-----226-----South Africa 62-----215-----Brazil 63-----214-----Uzbekistan 64-----206-----Argentina 65-----177-----Kyrgyzstan 66-----152-----Thailand 67-----122-----Uruguay 68-----117-----Bosnia and Herzegovina 69-----108-----Jordan 70-----83-----Sri Lanka 71-----75-----Egypt 72-----73-----Syrian Arab Republic 73-----73-----Montenegro 74-----70-----Mexico 75-----57-----Jamaica 76-----52-----Saudi Arabia 77-----52-----India 78-----49-----Tajikistan 79-----43-----Morocco 80-----41-----Cuba 81-----35-----Viet Nam 82-----31-----Paraguay 83-----30-----Colombia 84-----30-----China, Macao SAR 85-----27-----Tunisia 86-----26-----Philippines 87-----22-----Barbados 88-----18-----Algeria 89-----14-----Guatemala 90-----13-----Peru 91-----13-----Indonesia 92-----11-----Kenya 93-----11-----Aruba 94-----8-----Trinidad and Tobago 95-----8-----Panama 96-----7-----Ecuador 97-----6-----Pakistan 98-----5-----Yemen 99-----5-----Costa Rica 100-----3-----Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of) 101-----3-----Nicaragua 102-----3-----Honduras 103-----3-----Belize 104-----2-----Mauritius 105-----2-----Madagascar 106-----1-----Zambia 107-----1-----Mozambique 108-----1-----Bangladesh 109-----1-----Bahrain 110-----1-----Albania [/QUOTE] ]([http://ipstatsdb.wipo.org/ipstats/patentsSearch](http://ipstatsdb.wipo.org/ipstats/patentsSearch))It seems that Japan (2) beats China (30), South Africa (61) destroys Albania (110), and Kenya (92) edges Pakistan (96). Finally, all countries not in ranking can be considered genetically incapable to develop technology. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/158 "2013-01-05T21:53:40Z")
Also note that Brazil and Jamaica are ahead of Morocco, Vietnam, and the Phillipines. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/159 "2013-01-05T21:53:40Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Relative sophistication of locally-developed weaponry. [The SIPRI Top 100 arms-producing and military services companies, 2010](http://www.sipri.org/research/armaments/production/Top100). There’s only a handful of companies in this list that are not the US. No doubt the countries that didn’t make it are genetically incapable of producing weaponry. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/160 "2013-01-05T22:18:05Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Relative sophistication of locally-developed civil engineering techniques. Of course merely looking at pictures of their capital cities overlooks 99.99% of any other civil engineering works (airports, dams, etc), but from these pictures one can tell that civil infrastructure does exist in these places and looks as sophisticated as one would expect (some nice and some crumbling -check out Mogadishu). Algeria - [Algiers](https://www.google.com/search?q=Algiers&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Angola - [Luanda](https://www.google.com/search?q=Luanda&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Benin - [Porto-Novo](https://www.google.com/search?q=Porto-Novo&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Botswana - [Gaborone](https://www.google.com/search?q=Gaborone&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Burkina Faso - [Ouagadougou](https://www.google.com/search?q=Ouagadougou&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Burundi - [Bujumbara](https://www.google.com/search?q=Bujumbara&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Cameroon - [Yaounde](https://www.google.com/search?q=Yaounde&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Cape Verde - [Praia](https://www.google.com/search?q=Praia&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Central African Republic - [Bangui](https://www.google.com/search?q=Bangui&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Chad - [N’Djamena](https://www.google.com/search?q=N'Djamena&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Comoros - [Moroni](https://www.google.com/search?q=Moroni&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Congo, Republic of the - [Brazzaville](https://www.google.com/search?q=Brazzaville&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Congo, Democratic Republic of the - [Kinshasa](https://www.google.com/search?q=Kinshasa&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Cote d’Ivoire - [Abidjan](https://www.google.com/search?q=Abidjan&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Djibouti - [Djibouti](https://www.google.com/search?q=Djibouti&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Egypt - [Cairo](https://www.google.com/search?q=Cairo&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Equatorial Guinea - [Malabo](https://www.google.com/search?q=Malabo&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Eritrea - [Asmara](https://www.google.com/search?q=Asmara&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Ethiopia - [Addis Ababa]([Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=Addis) Ababa&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ\_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Gabon - [Libreville](https://www.google.com/search?q=Libreville&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) The Gambia - [Banjul](https://www.google.com/search?q=Banjul&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Ghana - [Accra](https://www.google.com/search?q=Accra&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Guinea - [Conakry](https://www.google.com/search?q=Conakry&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Guinea-Bissau - [Bissau](https://www.google.com/search?q=Bissau&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Kenya - [Nairobi](https://www.google.com/search?q=Nairobi&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Lesotho - [Maseru](https://www.google.com/search?q=Maseru&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Liberia - [Monrovia](https://www.google.com/search?q=Monrovia&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Libya - [Tripoli](https://www.google.com/search?q=Tripoli&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Madagascar - [Antananarivo](https://www.google.com/search?q=Antananarivo&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Malawi - [Lilongwe](https://www.google.com/search?q=Lilongwe&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Mali - [Bamako](https://www.google.com/search?q=Bamako&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Mauritania - [Nouakchott](https://www.google.com/search?q=Nouakchott&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Mauritius - [Port Louis]([Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=Port) Louis&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ\_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Morocco - [Rabat](https://www.google.com/search?q=Rabat&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Mozambique - [Maputo](https://www.google.com/search?q=Maputo&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Namibia - [Windhoek](https://www.google.com/search?q=Windhoek&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Niger - [Niamey](https://www.google.com/search?q=Niamey&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Nigeria - [Abuja](https://www.google.com/search?q=Abuja&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Rwanda - [Kigali](https://www.google.com/search?q=Kigali&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Senegal - [Dakar](https://www.google.com/search?q=Dakar&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Seychelles - [Victoria]([Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=Seychelles) Victoria&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ\_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Sierra Leone - [Freetown](https://www.google.com/search?q=Freetown&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Somalia - [Mogadishu](https://www.google.com/search?q=Mogadishu&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) South Africa - [Pretoria](https://www.google.com/search?q=Pretoria&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Sudan - [Khartoum](https://www.google.com/search?q=Khartoum&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) South Sudan - [Juba](https://www.google.com/search?q=Juba&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Swaziland - [Mbabane](https://www.google.com/search?q=Mbabane&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Tanzania - [Dar es Salaam]([Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=Dar) es Salaam&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ\_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Togo - [Lome](https://www.google.com/search?q=Lome&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Tunisia - [Tunis](https://www.google.com/search?q=Tunis&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Uganda - [Kampala](https://www.google.com/search?q=Kampala&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Zambia - [Lusaka](https://www.google.com/search?q=Lusaka&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) Zimbabwe - [harare](https://www.google.com/search?q=Harare&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1qLoUIScOq290QHOiYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438.md?page=9)