# Why isn't Europe enough for the white race? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 28, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438 "2012-12-28T23:01:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/161 "2013-01-05T22:25:39Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Releative sophistication of locally-developed transportation systems. Here’s a picture of a friggin [bus](https://www.google.com/search?q=bus&hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1C1ASUT_enCA465CA465&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5qfoUJ7gC4mp0AGFroGgBw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1366&bih=653). I have no idea what the hell you’re expecting with this. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/162 "2013-01-06T01:15:44Z")
I think people are missing the key words in **iiandyiiii** ’s post, which were > [@](#): > > no genetic evidence . **Chief Pedant** has no actual relevant data to back up his various wild assertions, just implications and assertions and pointless tangents. Patent applications tell us nothing about genetics. Weapon development tells us nothing about genetics. Crime rates, education levels, economic growth, fashion trends - nothing about genetics. You know what tells us about genetics? Genetics. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/163 "2013-01-29T16:17:20Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Plus, of course, any traits developed or lost subsequent to leaving africa. > > (Although, based on various posts around this board, it would appear Creationism is the dominant accepted explanation for human genetic egalitarianism. Evolution and the history of human migrations are apparently not widely accepted.) What? Creationism is only taught in the USA and other fundamentalists religious nut job countries, everywhere else in the civilise world its classified as: pseudo-science ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/165 "2013-07-23T15:29:35Z")
Reported. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/167 "2013-07-23T15:33:12Z")
Well, you’re a charmer! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/170 "2013-07-23T15:35:59Z")
Cleanup on aisle four! ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/171 "2013-07-23T15:36:15Z")
> [@logic](#): > > what the hell are you talking about? white people are NOT Aryan quit stealing our hindu culture idiot!you white trash will never be Aryan. [Take it up with these people:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan#Contemporary_usage) > [@](#): > > Contemporary usage > > - Among Hindu nationalists, the Hindu/Indian people > > - within the ideology of white supremacy, the “White race”, who are native Indo-Europeans of the Western or European branch of the Indo-European peoples, as opposed to the Eastern or Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European peoples. The term Aryan is prominently used in the names of such organizations. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/172 "2013-07-23T16:22:26Z")
Let anyone be confused, this lapsed Hindu doesn’t want any of you dead\* or to send you back anywhere. \*well, not a significant number of you, and it’s not a race thing. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/173 "2013-07-23T16:41:09Z")
I promise to stop stealing Hindu culture. Wish you guys would secure it better, it’s so tempting out in the open like that. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/174 "2013-07-23T16:42:12Z")
We’re thinking of installing a buffet shield arrangement. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/175 "2013-07-23T16:56:04Z")
By the way, since certain board members above were comparing relative intelligence of ethnic groups I thought this story might sit very nicely here: [Illiterate Ethiopian kids hack Motorola Zoom tablets in five months with no instruction](http://www.dvice.com/archives/2012/10/ethiopian_kids.php) > [@](#): > > Just to give you a sense of what these villages in Ethiopia are like, the kids (and most of the adults) there have never seen a word. No books, no newspapers, no street signs, no labels on packaged foods or goods. Nothing. And these villages aren’t unique in that respect; there are many of them in Africa where the literacy rate is close to zero. So you might think that if you’re going to give out fancy tablet computers, it would be helpful to have someone along to show these people how to use them, right? > > But that’s not what OLPC did. They just left the boxes there, sealed up, containing one tablet for every kid in each of the villages (nearly a thousand tablets in total), pre-loaded with a custom English-language operating system and SD cards with tracking software on them to record how the tablets were used. Here’s how it went down, as related by OLPC founder Nicholas Negroponte at MIT Technology Review’s EmTech conference last week: > > **“We left the boxes in the village. Closed. Taped shut. No instruction, no human being. I thought, the kids will play with the boxes! Within four minutes, one kid not only opened the box, but found the on/off switch. He’d never seen an on/off switch. He powered it up. Within five days, they were using 47 apps per child per day. Within two weeks, they were singing ABC songs [in English] in the village. And within five months, they had hacked Android. Some idiot in our organization or in the Media Lab had disabled the camera! And they figured out it had a camera, and they hacked Android.”** Intellectually inferior, my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/176 "2013-07-23T16:58:53Z")
I’m calling bullshit. How would they know what a camera was? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/177 "2013-07-23T17:08:37Z")
I suspect some license in the description - “hack” also seems to mean “working around an OEM attempt to limit the settings” in this context rather than anything more hardcore. Perhaps they enabled the cameras first and then worked out what they were. Also - the computers were teaching them English. “Camera” may have been included in that. I don’t know, but I’ve yet to see anything seriously alleging that the whole story was fabricated. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/178 "2013-07-23T17:31:36Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’m calling bullshit. How would they know what a camera was? Given the ubiquity of cell phones in Africa, and film based photography before that, chances are they’ve all seen a camera. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/179 "2013-07-23T17:54:59Z")
Supposedly they’ve “never seen a word”. Presumably if they’ve seen cellphones they’ve seen words. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/180 "2013-07-23T18:10:56Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > England is for the Celts. Or the Picts. The Angles and the Saxons should go back to the continent, to that little Angle of a land and Saxony (or wherever the Saxons came from). I like to imagine a scene from the early fifth century like this: In what will later become Northern Germany, a committee of Angles, Saxons, and Jutes get together in a long hall or wherever they do hold meetings. First Anglo-Saxon: The weather here sucks. Second Anglo-Saxon: I agree! It never gets warmer than 55 degrees F. It’s always damp and overcast. First AS: Summer in this place is worse than winter in San Francisco, which we’ve never heard of anyway, but I digress. Second AS: I move, we find another place to live. A place with a better climate. Warm days and low humidity would be nice. First AS: Seconded! And a warm water beach would be great, too. Third AS: Mr President, may I have the floor? _[Third AS has the floor]_ So where should we move to? _[A pregnant pause, while everybody looks around at everybody else.]_ All together: BRITAIN! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/181 "2013-07-23T18:22:30Z")
No love for the Frisians? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/182 "2013-07-23T18:26:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > No love for the Frisians? Not since that farmer caught me at it, no. Oh wait - those were Friesians. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/183 "2013-07-24T02:05:42Z")
I only wish \*\*Chief Pedant \*\*had a reply ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-europe-enough-for-the-white-race/645438/184 "2013-07-24T09:08:03Z")
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