The reason most of these unpleasant wackjobs will give is that while people weren’t the first people on this piece of land, they were the people who made it America, so it’s rightfully theirs. It’s not the actual land they’re claiming, it’s the civilization that happens to be located here.
Just 2. And not even that. Just Europe and the part of North America north of Mexico.
Certainly, that is not too much to ask!
We should give it all back to the Neanderthals.
We are the Neanderthals.
At least, 1-4 % of each Eurasian might be…
I’m still waiting for Pääbo’s next paper…is there anything new on this?
North America belongs to the Anglo-Saxons because we were here third.
Out of economic desperation, or fleeing political oppression. Not central heating and cell phones. And much of the problems they flee are created by “European civilization”; a world economy designed to benefit the West at the expense of everyone else, dictators propped up by the West and so on.
Is this also the reason their situation was so lame pre-conquering?
Or do these various conquered regions hope to return to their pre-conquered state?
If so, which ones are trying to get back to primitive states instead of trying to get everyone cell phones and central heat?
You need to travel more…
As a southern guy whose ancestors lived in teepees and hunted buffalo and generally putzed around for thousands of years I welcome our AC bearing overlords.
No “lamer” that that of their conquerors.
:rolleyes: Ah, because they are such a bunch of subhumans in your eyes that the only way a bunch of brown skinned people could get modern conveniences is if Mighty Whitey shows up and forces it on them at gunpoint while massacring and enslaving them. Because the shacks they kept slaves in in the Old South had air conditioning, right?
Whitey walked on the moon.
Just sayin.
You think a non-white would have been allowed back then? Never.
I’d be genuinely curious whether there are significant examples of colonisers actually working primarily for the betterment of local populace and not as vampires. I know in Ireland that some plantation owners worked to create industry and education within their purviews but was any colonial project ever explicitly (and actually) for the betterment of the natives?
ETA: I suppose missionaries might count.
As far as I know the same laws of politics, economics, and orbital mechanics apply to africa, south america, asia, the middle east, the far east, and even those lazy european bastards.
Who cares if it WAS?
The native americans were putzing around for thousands of years. They probably still would be if not for European whitey. And for that matter the romantic notions of peaceful Indians and their idyllic life is probably a bunch of baloney for that matter.
They’d also be alive.
They are. Its me and my relatives living in AC and using computers and shit.
Ah, so the descendents of the “lucky” 1% or so of survivors get to use some toys in a society that largely hates them. I’m sure the millions of dead and those who spent the intervening centuries in grinding poverty would have considered that worth dying for.
EDIT: And you do realize that you are agreeing with the claim that you and all your relatives are subhuman? That they could never have traded for modern technology much less invented their own, but only but conquest and genocide could they have ever possibly gotten central heating or air conditioning.
Well, there was that time the refrigerator salesman tried to sell my distant great great uncle that fridge. Fortunately there was no room in the igloo and he put that money in a 401K instead.
I CARE, hence the question.