# Why isn't Hillary clinton in jail?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125 "2015-04-20T16:26:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/241 "2015-04-22T01:33:07Z")

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Democrats refuse to admit that people who disagree with them even exist.  
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I think you exist and you don’t know what is going on. not sure if this is better than being a troll…maybe slightly.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/242 "2015-04-22T01:47:02Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> That makes no sense, so par for the course so far.

So name names. _Who_ on this board would cheer if Hillary Clinton committed public infanticide? And if that was merely metaphorical and hyperbolic (along with the “shit ice cream” remark) and it actually applies to no specific person _and_ it’s obviously gaining you no traction, then why not fall back on more plausible, more relevant and more realistic criticisms?  
My own interest is academic, I admit; I’m not going to be voting for Hillary Clinton or any Democrat.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/243 "2015-04-22T01:51:57Z")

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> [@Haberdash](#):
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> I’ve noticed this “troll” meme a lot – Republicans think their opponents are dumb/evil, but Democrats refuse to admit that people who disagree with them even exist. The only explanation for anyone dissenting from Fearless Leader is that they are disingenuously adopting a position they don’t really hold in order to provoke a response from you.

It’s called “giving them the benefit of the doubt.”

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/244 "2015-04-22T02:04:16Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> So name names. _Who_ on this board would cheer if Hillary Clinton committed public infanticide? And if that was merely metaphorical and hyperbolic (along with the “shit ice cream” remark) and it actually applies to no specific person _and_ it’s obviously gaining you no traction, then why not fall back on more plausible, more relevant and more realistic criticisms?  
> My own interest is academic, I admit; I’m not going to be voting for Hillary Clinton or any Democrat.

1. [Hyperbole](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole)

2. Do you think I actually expect to “gain traction” with a group I’m calling out as hypocritical?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/245 "2015-04-22T02:07:25Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> 1. [Hyperbole](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole)
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> 2. Do you think I actually expect to “gain traction” with a group I’m calling out as hypocritical?

I would just like to state, for the record, haHA to those people in 2008 who were so pissed off because I didn’t like Hillary. The truth is OUT! Waymore says I’m one of her biggest fans, and he can’t be wrong!

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/246 "2015-04-22T02:14:11Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I would just like to state, for the record, haHA to those people in 2008 who were so pissed off because I didn’t like Hillary. The truth is OUT! Waymore says I’m one of her biggest fans, and he can’t be wrong!

When did I say that?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/247 "2015-04-22T02:20:29Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> When did I say that?

Wait, so what is it that I feel for Clinton? I need to know!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/248 "2015-04-22T02:24:32Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> Do you think I actually expect to “gain traction” with a group I’m calling out as hypocritical?

So you express your disinterest in credibility by throwing away any chance at credibility? Hey, good for you, buddy, going to all that effort to get a response while claiming you don’t care about a response.

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/249 "2015-04-22T02:26:35Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Wait, so what is it that I feel for Clinton? I need to know!

Come on JS, you’re better than this. If you’re going to attribute saying to me, it’s a simple matter quote me.

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/250 "2015-04-22T02:28:21Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> So you express your disinterest in credibility by throwing away any chance at credibility? Hey, good for you, buddy, going to all that effort to get a response while claiming you don’t care about a response.

Credibility? I never said anything about credibility. You asked me a question, I answered. Pretty nifty how that works.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/251 "2015-04-22T02:35:50Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> Come on JS, you’re better than this. If you’re going to attribute saying to me, it’s a simple matter quote me.

You’re saying we’re such huge fans we won’t cavil over the hyperbolic baby eating. I would have thought that meant we, as a group, are pretty in love with her. It doesn’t mean that?

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/252 "2015-04-22T02:40:57Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> You’re saying we’re such huge fans we won’t cavil over the hyperbolic baby eating. I would have thought that meant we, as a group, are pretty in love with her. It doesn’t mean that?

Seems like a fair interpretation, but you said:

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> Waymore says I’m one of her biggest fans

So, I said:

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> When did I say that?

Still waiting for that quote.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/253 "2015-04-22T02:41:48Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> Credibility? I never said anything about credibility. You asked me a question, I answered. Pretty nifty how that works.

Actually, I asked you to name names, and you did not. If your comment was _solely_ hyperbole, then your effort is wasted, at least in any sense of establishing that you know or understand anything about American politics.

So now I picture you typing furiously while wearing only poorly-applied clown makeup, not all of it on your face.

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/254 "2015-04-22T02:49:51Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Actually, I asked you to name names, and you did not. If your comment was _solely_ hyperbole, then your effort is wasted, at least in any sense of establishing that you know or understand anything about American politics.
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> So now I picture you typing furiously while wearing only poorly-applied clown makeup, not all of it on your face.

You keep making the same error, namely that I have any sort of goal besides expressing my opinion. I know when folks are beyond help.

So, if I’m a clown (very creative by the way, do you have an MFA?) why bother responding to my blathering? Want I should make you a balloon animal instead? I could take you for a ride in my car, but it’s kind of cramped.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/255 "2015-04-22T03:03:21Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> Seems like a fair interpretation, but you said:
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> So, I said:
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> Still waiting for that quote.

Why would I need to provide a quote? This is the thread where we make hyperbolic statements, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/256 "2015-04-22T03:05:30Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> You keep making the same error, namely that I have any sort of goal besides expressing my opinion.

Surely you have some reason for wanting to grace the poor fools at the SDMB with your opinion.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/257 "2015-04-22T03:10:52Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> You keep making the same error, namely that I have any sort of goal besides expressing my opinion.

Over and over with little variation, it seems. Rather futile process for such an effort, but heck, I once did a scene-by-scene analysis of _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan_ to bolster an argument that the “_KHAAANN!_” yell was a display of genuine fury and frustration. You want to know who’s beyond help, it’s the people who say Kirk was faking.

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> So, if I’m a clown (very creative by the way, do you have an MFA?) why bother responding to my blathering? Want I should make you a balloon animal instead? I could take you for a ride in my car, but it’s kind of cramped.

You know even less about clown cars than you do about politics. Clown cars are roomy and magical, which is why you were so readily conceived in the back of one.

Mocking you personally amuses me. Trying to mock an ill-defined group of people while being too cowardly to name any particular one of them, I leave to you.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/258 "2015-04-22T03:21:57Z")

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> [@Waymore](#):
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> Powell is an ultra Republican except when he isn’t…

Oh, you noticed that, too?

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Mocking you personally amuses me.

Be frightened, **Waymore**. You’ve bitten off more than you can chew. Bryan rarely appears more than a couple times in a thread, but now you have his attention. Fortunate for you that you can’t recognized when you’ve been pwned.

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/259 "2015-04-22T03:25:28Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Surely you have some reason for wanting to grace the poor fools at the SDMB with your opinion.

Nope, just chewing the fat.

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**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/260 "2015-04-22T03:26:31Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Over and over with little variation, it seems. Rather futile process for such an effort, but heck, I once did a scene-by-scene analysis of _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan_ to bolster an argument that the “_KHAAANN!_” yell was a display of genuine fury and frustration. You want to know who’s beyond help, it’s the people who say Kirk was faking.
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> You know even less about clown cars than you do about politics. Clown cars are roomy and magical, which is why you were so readily conceived in the back of one.
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> Mocking you personally amuses me. Trying to mock an ill-defined group of people while being too cowardly to name any particular one of them, I leave to you.

Bravo Bryan Ekers. You’re a true hero.

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