# Why isn't Hillary clinton in jail? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125 "2015-04-20T16:26:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/381 "2015-07-10T20:54:34Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Aw, that’s sweet. We love you too. _\_ To quote the “Shindig” episode of _Firefly_: “He thinks he’s doing well, doesn’t he?” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/382 "2015-07-12T09:49:47Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > This is incredibly stupid. People are allowed to have opinions on the guilt or innocence of accused criminals and public figures. “Innocent until proven guilty” is a standard for courts – one that Hillary Clinton apparently didn’t care for much while serving as Secretary of State during a Presidential administration that targeted people for assassination without trial in its drone program – not for people having opinions on a message board. So you believe your opinion about whether Secretary Clinton broke any laws is perfectly valid in even if you have no clue what laws, specifically, she’s broken? Something is stupid about that, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/383 "2015-07-12T09:56:13Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > That’s actually pretty clever. Typically when Russia invades somewhere, we don’t see a dime. Go Hillary! And we might as well give her the title to go with the power if she was powerful enough to “let Russia annex Ukraine” while she was a private citizen in 2014. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/384 "2015-07-12T10:12:29Z")
You know, I have slightly more sympathy now for those who disagree with people who say that we should’ve already prosecuted Wall Street figures for the financial collapse. I imagine that this is what those arguments must sound like to them. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/385 "2015-07-24T16:39:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Two inspectors general have asked the Justice Department to open a criminal investigation into whether sensitive government information was mishandled in connection with the personal email account Hillary Rodham Clinton used as secretary of state, senior government officials said Thursday. > > The request follows an assessment in a June 29 memo by the inspectors general for the State Department and the intelligence agencies that Mrs. Clinton’s private account contained “hundreds of potentially classified emails.” The memo was written to Patrick F. Kennedy, the under secretary of state for management. > **[Inquiry Sought in Hillary Clinton’s Use of Email (Published 2015)](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/24/us/politics/inquiry-is-sought-in-hillary-clinton-email-account.html)** > > Since her use of a private email account for State Department business was revealed in March, Hillary Rodham Clinton has repeatedly said she had no classified information on the account. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/386 "2015-07-24T16:55:41Z")
Dammit, I just know she was keeping her Vince Foster confession on that email account. I just _know_ it! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/387 "2015-07-24T17:19:50Z")
Along with the minutes of all her secret meetings on Hillarycare. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/388 "2015-07-24T20:06:20Z")
[http://www.wsj.com/articles/investigation-sought-into-hillary-clintons-emails-1437714369](http://www.wsj.com/articles/investigation-sought-into-hillary-clintons-emails-1437714369) > [@WSJ](#): > > Initially, a Justice Department official said Friday morning the investigation was criminal in nature, but the department reversed course hours later without explanation. > > “The department has received a referral related to the potential compromise of classified information. It is not a criminal referral,” an official said. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/389 "2015-07-24T22:50:10Z")
> [@bup](#): > > [http://www.wsj.com/articles/investigation-sought-into-hillary-clintons-emails-1437714369](http://www.wsj.com/articles/investigation-sought-into-hillary-clintons-emails-1437714369) > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by **WSJ** > > Initially, a Justice Department official said Friday morning the investigation was criminal in nature, but the department reversed course hours later without explanation. > > > > “The department has received a referral related to the potential compromise of classified information. It is not a criminal referral,” an official said. The article appears to be behind a paywall, but let me guess: the first Justice Department official “spoke on condition of anonymity because he (she) (it) was not authorized to reveal information.” Which means the statement has about as much authenticity as something that was generated by a Ouija board. (To be fair, that may apply to the second official’s statement as well.) ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/390 "2015-07-25T05:35:03Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > The article appears to be behind a paywall, but let me guess: the first Justice Department official “spoke on condition of anonymity because he (she) (it) was not authorized to reveal information.” Which means the statement has about as much authenticity as something that was generated by a Ouija board. > > (To be fair, that may apply to the second official’s statement as well.) According. to CNN, Charles McCullough the Inspector General, stated they reviewed 40 emails and found 4 that contained classified information at the time they were sent. Additionally, McCullough said the State Department Freedom of Information Act officials told the IG that ‘there are potentially hundreds of classified e-mails’ that were sent. 4 is 10 percent of 40. So my guess is the ‘hundreds’ of emails will turn out to be 3,000 or so. Additionally, Under Secretary of State Patrick Kennedy said at least one of the classified e-mail was released to the public. There are named sources. You guessed wrong. In any sane world, this would disqualify Clinton instantly. Either Clinton lied about sending classified material, she didn’t know/understand the whole classified thing or she didn’t care. However, we don’t live in a sane world. Ideology trumps all. So I expect lots and lots of justification in the near future. This could also put Obama in a bind. At some point a serious, independent investigation needs to take place. Since Justice is Obama’s, Obama might have to toss Clinton under the bus or end up there himself. It should get interesting. The lack of good judgement by Clinton on this one is stunning. And yet there will be games played. The Ds will play it as no big deal while the Rs will play it to the hilt. And a all the while honesty, integrity and responsibility will become even more irrelevant. Slee ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/391 "2015-07-25T07:50:34Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > In any sane world, this would disqualify Clinton instantly. Either Clinton lied about sending classified material, she didn’t know/understand the whole classified thing or she didn’t care. Leak of classified information to unclassified networks is a huge deal. There’s still some excluded options like an error where stuff widely reported on is also contained in still classified documents. While still in uniform, after the Manning leaks, we got told to not go to Wikileaks. That information was known around the world but it had not been declassified. Referencing it on an unclassified system would technically be a violation. Guess who was Secretary of State at the time? There’s room to fuck up and “spill” classified information by talking about a story on CNN in an email. There’s even potential for normal open source reporting to reveal classified data. If you aren’t aware of the classified document that piece of information is buried in and just talk about the news story in email… it’s technically spillage. It’s not necessarily any of the options you present though. It’s potentially very serious. It deserves full investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/392 "2015-07-27T13:19:12Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > In any sane world, this would disqualify Clinton instantly. Either Clinton lied about sending classified material, she didn’t know/understand the whole classified thing or she didn’t care. Or the e-mails were classified by the Kerry State Department _after_ she released them, which seems to be what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/393 "2015-07-27T15:03:35Z")
Are Kerry and Obama part of the vast right-wing conspiracy too? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/394 "2015-07-27T15:12:34Z")
> [@Haberdash](#): > > Are Kerry and Obama part of the vast right-wing conspiracy too? Who is this addressed to? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/395 "2015-07-27T16:04:17Z")
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