# Why isn't Hillary clinton in jail? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125 "2015-04-20T16:26:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/141 "2015-04-21T05:45:20Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > You’re embarrassingly overwrought response is proof positive. Overwrought as in…? > [@Waymore](#): > > Hillary Clinton could eat a baby on live TV and this board would come to her defense. So there’s another thing I’ve learned. Modern conservatives lack self awareness. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/142 "2015-04-21T05:47:20Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Again, Powell had a private email addy and nobody cared. Nobody called for him to release the info, because the center left - well they aren’t creeps, are they? > > Like I said, this is a great thread. Modern conservatives are certain that liberals are as fucked in the head as they are: _though the evidence is otherwise_. Look champ, I’m sorry Powell’s got you all flustered and such. But I’m not defending him, I’m just calling out your ilk for blatant hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/143 "2015-04-21T05:50:10Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Overwrought as in…? “Bush is the **DEVIL** … Powell used the internet… I’ve not taken my meds…” > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > So there’s another thing I’ve learned. Modern conservatives lack self awareness. You don’t know my politics, clearly. That you want to turn this into a liberal vs. conservative thing just shows who really lacks self awareness. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/144 "2015-04-21T05:53:08Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > “Bush is the **DEVIL** … Powell used the internet… I’ve not taken my meds…” Er, I didn’t say any of that. I was pretty factual. You have quite the imagination. > [@](#): > > You don’t know my politics, clearly. That you want to turn this into a liberal vs. conservative thing just shows who really lacks self awareness. You are a right wing nutcase, prone to hallucination apparently, as seen above. Seriously, these strawman techniques are pretty good examples of modern conservative psychology. They can’t handle what their counterparts actually said, so they respond to their imaginary opponents. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/145 "2015-04-21T05:56:57Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > Look champ, I’m sorry Powell’s got you all flustered and such. But I’m not defending him, I’m just calling out your ilk for blatant hypocrisy. For what? The third time? **If liberals had a problem with a sitting Secretary of State having a private email address, they would have criticized Colin Powell and others.** But they didn’t. So your claim is projection, for we know it has no basis in fact. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/146 "2015-04-21T05:57:09Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Er, I didn’t say any of that. You have quite the imagination. You are a right wing nutcase, prone to hallucination apparently, as seen above. Yeah, you kind of did. But don’t let that slow you down. > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Seriously, these strawman techniques are pretty good examples of modern conservative psychology. They can’t handle what their counterparts actually said, so they respond to their imaginary opponents. Still doing the liberal vs. conservative shtick? I’ve got no dog in that fight champ. I don’t have to be a conservative to see hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/147 "2015-04-21T05:58:58Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > Look champ, I’m sorry Powell’s got you all flustered and such. But I’m not defending him, I’m just calling out your ilk for blatant hypocrisy. Uhhh… Does not compute. Powell and Hillary both used private e-mail and the center-left didn’t care about either. Powell and Hillary both used private e-mail and the right-wing cared only about Hillary. Right-wing cognition is a fascinating mystery. Can you explain why the above makes the center-left the hypocrites? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/148 "2015-04-21T06:04:03Z")
Right wing robots can’t explain septimus. They can only whine about bias and make unsubstantiated claims. That’s the difference between modern conservatives and normal people. When normal people apply double standards from time to time, they don’t freak out and accuse others of hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/149 "2015-04-21T06:22:41Z")
Powell’s transgressions came to light in the wake of [Hilary’s](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/colin-powell-personal-email-secretary-of-state-115707.html) scandal. Does it take much figuring why a liberal wouldn’t want to make a big deal of it? According to the [New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=1), the situation was different for the two Secretaries of State. > [@](#): > > _Before the current regulations went into effect_, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who served from 2001 to 2005, used personal email to communicate with American officials and ambassadors and foreign leaders. Emphasis added. The [Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/03/06/6-questions-that-still-need-answers-in-the-hillary-email-controversy/) concurs. > [@](#): > > Put aside the fact that other secretaries of state – COLIN POWELL! – have maintained a private e-mail address, no one has exclusively used such a setup. So, why did Clinton – particular given that she had to know that it might become an issue if/when she ran for president in 2016? So guys, even though I’m not defending Powell, the point still stands. I bet if Hilary put the baby eating event on pay per view, you’d pay up. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/150 "2015-04-21T06:23:42Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Right wing robots can’t explain septimus. They can only whine about bias and make unsubstantiated claims. > > That’s the difference between modern conservatives and normal people. When normal people apply double standards from time to time, they don’t freak out and accuse others of hypocrisy. You’ve got your teeth into this right vs. left thing and just won’t let go. You must be a blast at parties. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/151 "2015-04-21T06:40:54Z")
Were laws broken in either case? No. H. Clinton may have used a different operating system as well, but I fail to see a relevant distinction. Wingers will froth at the mouth over _any_ sitting Democratic President: they are just getting warmed up now. > [@Waymore](#): > > You’ve got your teeth into this right vs. left thing and just won’t let go. You must be a blast at parties. You claim you are not a right wingnut, but have offered no examples. We can see that you don’t have a problem with launching pointless wars on false pretexts - though you will mischaracterize such descriptions. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/152 "2015-04-21T07:00:25Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Were laws broken in either case? No. H. Clinton may have used a different operating system as well, but I fail to see a relevant distinction. The distinction is Powell is covered because his faux pas because it was revealed in relation to Hilary’s. Also, Powell wasn’t working under the same regulations, so it’s not even an apples to apples comparison. > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Wingers will froth at the mouth over _any_ sitting Democratic President: they are just getting warmed up now. And the left wing doesn’t hack on Republican presidents? > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > You claim you are not a right wingnut, but have offered no examples. Are you asking me to prove a negative? > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > We can see that you don’t have a problem with launching pointless wars on false pretexts - though you will mischaracterize such descriptions. You can see that? Amazing, since I think invading Iraq was a horrible idea. Look, I know you really need me to be a “right wingnut”, as you so wittily phrase it, but I can’t do that for you big guy. I’m just a guy who knows bullshit when he sees it. You know, if you said something along the lines of “Hilary is a great person and would make a great president, but she fouled up the email thing”, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/153 "2015-04-21T07:36:39Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > The distinction is Powell is covered because his faux pas because it was revealed in relation to Hilary’s. Also, Powell wasn’t working under the same regulations, so it’s not even an apples to apples comparison. Specific regulations please? As for “Revealed”, _liberals and normal people don’t dig up bullshit like this_, because of their superior grip on reality. > [@](#): > > And the left wing doesn’t hack on Republican presidents? Oh sure they do, when Republican Presidents launch pointless wars on false pretexts, conduct secret bombing campaigns, etc. etc. > [@](#): > > Are you asking me to prove a negative? No, provide an example. (Which you admirably did in the following sentence.) That’s how substantiation works. > [@](#): > > You know, if you said something along the lines of “Hilary is a great person and would make a great president, but she fouled up the email thing”, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. The email thing is small potatoes. Sorry, but that’s how it is. A much bigger thing she did foul up was health care reform some 20 years ago. Obama (not the poster - har!) showed us how it’s done. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/154 "2015-04-21T07:39:17Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Specific regulations please? As for “Revealed”, _liberals and normal people don’t dig up bullshit like this_, because of their superior grip on reality. Oh sure they do, when Republican Presidents launch pointless wars on false pretexts, conduct secret bombing campaigns, etc. etc. No, provide an example. (Which you admirably did in the following sentence.) > > That’s how substantiation works. The email thing is small potatoes. Sorry, but that’s how it is. A much bigger thing she did foul up was health care reform some 20 years ago. Obama (not the poster - har!) showed us how it’s done. but it’s not small potatoes 1- it shows that she had disregard for protocol to begin with 2- after she is caught she still wants to withhold ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/155 "2015-04-21T07:53:40Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Specific regulations please? As for “Revealed”, _liberals and normal people don’t dig up bullshit like this_, because of their superior grip on reality. I linked the article. And you’re the person who originated the talk of Powell in this thread. So much for the superior grip on reality. > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Oh sure they do, when Republican Presidents launch pointless wars on false pretexts, conduct secret bombing campaigns, etc. etc. No, provide an example. (Which you admirably did in the following sentence.) Have you imbibed so much kool aid you really think Democrats don’t engage in petty blaming of their political enemies? Need to work on your reality grip big guy. > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > That’s how substantiation works. The email thing is small potatoes. Sorry, but that’s how it is. A much bigger thing she did foul up was health care reform some 20 years ago. Obama (not the poster - har!) showed us how it’s done. Look, I’m sure Hilary is on her laptop in the her cartoon sleuth van right now reading your valiant defense of her. The cockles of her heart are warmly kindled no doubt. But if you want to let go of the silly notion that everybody who agrees with you is incapable of hypocrisy or that anybody who calls BS on obvious BS is a right wingnut, you’d be the better for it. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/156 "2015-04-21T08:04:45Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > But if you want to let go of the silly notion that everybody who agrees with you is incapable of hypocrisy or that anybody who calls BS on obvious BS is a right wingnut, you’d be the better for it. So what then were the top 3 flaws of the Bush administration? ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/157 "2015-04-21T08:15:09Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > So what then were the top 3 flaws of the Bush administration? I’ll play along for shits and giggles, but I’ll go ahead and spell it out again. My personal political leanings are moot. A person could be a liberal and still call liberals on their bullshit. Same with conservatives. In no particular order: 1)War on Terror 2)Bailouts 3)Prescription drug benefits. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/158 "2015-04-21T08:17:11Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > I’ll play along for shits and giggles, but I’ll go ahead and spell it out again. My personal political leanings are moot. A person could be a liberal and still call liberals on their bullshit. Same with conservatives. > > In no particular order: > 1)War on Terror > 2)Bailouts > 3)Prescription drug benefits. what about deregulation? ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/159 "2015-04-21T08:19:48Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > what about deregulation? What about it? ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-hillary-clinton-in-jail/718125/160 "2015-04-21T08:23:22Z")
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