It gives the quoted figures for Hispanic voters. The figure for white voters appears to have been made up, but is at any rate unattributed, because it’s not in the linked report.
I’ll have to email the author to find out the source of that figure.
In any case, I still consider that voter support and general ideological fear of appearing racist, is why the Democrats turn a blind eye to immigration. Even though, in terms of looking out for the working class voter, it should be a major issue for them.
I wouldn’t say they turn a blind eye to it. Democrats are generally behind the enforcement efforts which target employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. It’s only Republicans who still think the idea of shipping them all home is viable- a policy that amounts to sticking one’s fingers in one’s ears.
Anyway, voters - even working class ones - aren’t stupid. Plenty of them recognize that eliminating illegal immigration is just going to leave a lot of dishes unwashed and a lot of fruit unpicked.
No, they are stupid as they fail to see the long run costs. Of course, if there was a policy that allowed temporary visas for people to come and do those jobs and then return at the end of the season that would be another thing. They actually use that approach in Australia and NZ with polynesian workers coming in to pick fruit, then returning home.
“Looking out for the workers” includes those workers who happen to have slightly darker skin. OK, they’re not citizens… If that’s the problem, then let’s go ahead and give them citizenship.
Heaven forfend! We can’t allow that to happen, because, because…well, just because, alright?
But all these jobs were done by citizens previously, and still are in some areas where illegal labor isn’t widely available. If rigorous employment enforcement meant that cheap illegal labor wasn’t widely available anywhere, then citizens would assuredly be doing all those jobs again, for better wages.
Also, it is a fact that, wages aside, in some areas and industries companies aren’t interested in hiring anyone who doesn’t speak Spanish, because that would complicate the management of the crews.
Come on. Eliminating illegal immigrant labor would make washed dishes and picked fruit more expensive. And our economy would be the better for it, with those better-paid citizen workers spending all their money here rather than sending much of it elsewhere.
If accompanied by serious and ongoing enforcement against employers, that would work.
Yeah, but again you’re overlooking the long run costs. If you give them citizenship you’ll get more coming and more of these problems.
Just like all those problems we got a century ago from all those damned dirty Irish, right?
Yeah, except you’ll see from the article linked above those problems aren’t abating over the generations. That might be because the overall numbers are so high to prevent assimilation, I don’t know. But they’re different cases.
We DID have problems with the damn dirty Irish, and they WERE discriminated against.
Why you chose to work the racial angle is beyond me, unless you consider it low-hanging fruit. Of course, it would help if you used an example that actually made your point rather than refuting it.
The statement that illegal aliens are the losers in the situation is silly as any thinking person understands iIllegal aliens benefit by finding jobs paying more than they can get in their country of origin that’s why they came. If they did not benefit they would leave just the way they came. Except of course for the ones in jail. With the exception of the descendents that haters call the “Dirty Irish” they have probably been here too long.
I think you’ve missed the point of that comment. It was in response to me pointing out that low skill immigration from Mexico has a high long term cost because of intergenerational lags in academic achievement. So you’re creating an underclass.
Chronos was trying to compare my comment to old views about the Irish. I then responded by pointing out that they are different because the assimilation process is not happening to the same extent.
A possible answer in the meantime would be a moratorium on low skill immigration from Mexico until things improve.
Yes, everyone will honor that.
Total annual remittances by foreign workers in the US (documented and undocumented) amount to less than $70 billion. It’s a drop in the ocean as far as the US economy is concerned (although it’s a significant percentage of GDP for many of the recipient countries).
Get Netanyahu to show them how to build a security fence.