# Why Isn't the IRS Investigating the Clinton Foundation?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894 "2016-10-28T00:00:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/1 "2016-10-28T00:00:48Z")

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> **[The Cold Clinton Reality](https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696)**
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> Why isn’t the IRS investigating the Clinton Foundation? the Wall Street Journal asks in an editorial.

Simple: Same reason the FBI was told to stop. So in fact, the Clintons are lying, thieving tax cheating influence peddlers - not to mention national secuity risks as basically pardoned felons with no concept of protecting sensitive classified information. Evidently.

Fuck anybody who still can’t see through the wool they desperately clutch to their face.

Responses touting the better qualities of Mr. Trump, myself or subjecting anyone or any thing other than the topic to discussion will be categorically ignored.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/2 "2016-10-28T00:04:05Z")

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All pure nonsense. The FBI wasn’t “told to stop”, they didn’t find anything despite being run by a Republican partisan. And the IRS isn’t investigating the Clinton Foundation because it has no reason to.

Everything you are saying is wrong.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/3 "2016-10-28T00:06:55Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> [http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696](http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696)
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> Simple: Same reason the FBI was told to stop. So in fact, the Clintons are lying, thieving tax cheating influence peddlers - not to mention national secuity risks as basically pardoned felons with no concept of protecting sensitive classified information. Evidently.
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> Fuck anybody who still can’t see through the wool they desperately clutch to their face.
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> Responses touting the better qualities of Mr. Trump, myself or subjecting anyone or any thing other than the topic to discussion will be categorically ignored.

Take the wool off your own face and maybe you’ll see that you are the only one doing said clinging? I know, I know, you don’t want to/can’t believe that so I am to be ignored.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/4 "2016-10-28T00:07:39Z")

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Why? Because you’re an asshole.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/5 "2016-10-28T00:11:21Z")

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Count down to “Billary”…  
3…

2…

1…

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/6 "2016-10-28T00:26:40Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> [http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696](http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696)
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> Simple: Same reason the FBI was told to stop. So in fact, the Clintons are lying, thieving tax cheating influence peddlers - not to mention national secuity risks as basically pardoned felons with no concept of protecting sensitive classified information. Evidently.
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> Fuck anybody who still can’t see through the wool they desperately clutch to their face.
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> Responses touting the better qualities of Mr. Trump, myself or subjecting anyone or any thing other than the topic to discussion will be categorically ignored.

If you believe you have information that the Clinton Foundation has violated tax laws, you should bring it to the attention of the tax authorities, just as you did when you learned that the Trump Foundation was soliciting money without authorization.

You did report the Trump Foundation, right?

Also, from the posts I’ve seen from you so far, being on your ignore list would be an absolute privilege, so have at it.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/7 "2016-10-28T00:26:59Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> [http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696](http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696)
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> Simple: Same reason the FBI was told to stop. So in fact, the Clintons are lying, thieving tax cheating influence peddlers - not to mention national secuity risks as basically pardoned felons with no concept of protecting sensitive classified information. Evidently.
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> Fuck anybody who still can’t see through the wool they desperately clutch to their face.
> 
> Responses touting the better qualities of Mr. Trump, myself or subjecting anyone or any thing other than the topic to discussion will be categorically ignored.

Article’s paywalled. Why don’t you quote the part where the WSJ explains their proof about how the Clinton Foundation violated the tax code?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/8 "2016-10-28T00:34:45Z")

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And Wikileaks is such an unimpeachable source of evidence, too!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/9 "2016-10-28T00:42:08Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Why don’t you quote the part where the WSJ explains their proof about how the Clinton Foundation violated the tax code?

Because it is not a WSJ news story.

It is an opinion piece based on a hacked e-mail from one guy.

It is certainly possible that the Clintons have used contacts, (some developed through the foundation), to get offers to make speeches that have enriched them. However, no one has brought any evidence that the foundation, itself, has done anything wrong. Unlike Trump’s foundation, the Clinton outfit routinely gets high marks from charity watch organizations in the areas of passing most of their donations to the people for whom they have been solicited and in actually achieving the goals set out in their advertising campaigns. In addition, much of the Clinton foundation is not run as a source of revenue, but is based on encouraging donors to submit time, information, labor/services, and goods to those in need rather than simply writing checks to the foundation. it is much more of a clearinghouse for charitable works than a money soliciting operation.  
This does not mean that Bill and Hillary have never used the contacts they have made to their own advantage, but that is not a violation of IRS regulations.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/10 "2016-10-28T00:44:14Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Evidently.

Not sufficiently so.

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/11 "2016-10-28T01:03:16Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Because it is not a WSJ news story.
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> It is an opinion piece based on a hacked e-mail from one guy.

So then, it is your opinion that the referenced email is not legitimate, accurate or relevant in some way?

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/12 "2016-10-28T01:04:23Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Count down to “Billary”…

Thanks for getting that out of the way for us! 😃

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/13 "2016-10-28T01:23:16Z")

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Why are you afraid to talk about Putin’s Puppet?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/14 "2016-10-28T01:26:38Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Thanks for getting that out of the way for us! 😃

:smack: I was hoping I was ignored.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/15 "2016-10-28T01:37:25Z")

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Jeez, **Uber**. If you took your head out of your ass sometime you might realize how badly you are being played.

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/16 "2016-10-28T01:48:09Z")

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So T&D, further to your complaint:

> [@tomndebb](#):
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> It is an opinion piece based on a hacked e-mail from one guy.

What is your idea or definition of a “hacked” email? Would it mean the information contained in the email was inaccurate, forged or otherwise altered in some way? Please explain. 😕

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/17 "2016-10-28T01:53:28Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> It is an opinion piece based on a hacked e-mail from one guy.

Hmmmm… more than one guy (or gal?!) can send an email.

Wow, learn something new every damn day! 🆒

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/18 "2016-10-28T02:00:13Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Jeez, **Uber**. If you took your head out of your ass sometime you might realize how badly you are being played.

Uber can’t help it. People keep getting inside him and telling him where to go.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/19 "2016-10-28T02:25:57Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Uber can’t help it. People keep getting inside him and telling him where to go.

😃

_\<claps\>_

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/20 "2016-10-28T02:27:00Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Hmmmm… more than one guy (or gal?!) can send an email.

Do you have to work hard to come off as dumb?  
The point was that all the claims made are based on a single guy’s claims in a stolen e-mail. That the e-mail is from a hacker means that we have no information regarding the actual conversations in which the guy was engaged. We do not know what other people were saying in response–correcting him, challenging him, pointing out his leaps or lapses in logic, etc. We have no way of gauging how much of his text was just self-inflating self-promotion _vs_ how much of it was an actual recitation of the facts. (And even then, nothing in his e-mail points to actual illegal activity.)

So, noting that the e-mail was hacked indicates that we do not know the context surrounding it and we do not know how much of it was modified by the hacker before being published.  
Noting that it was all the words of single person indicates that we do not have any reference to the actual conversations surrounding its text no information regarding how much was posted in jest or in self-promotion.

Your leap from “a Clinton associate wrote a potentially embarrassing memo” to your Trump-like accusations that “something” illegal happened, (even when you are unable to say what) along with your Conspiracy Theories is based on nothing more than your desire to bash Clinton without regard to facts, (even such minor detail facts as citing a law that might have been broken).

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