# Why Isn't the IRS Investigating the Clinton Foundation?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894 "2016-10-28T00:00:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/61 "2016-10-28T15:18:24Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I prefer [Useful Idiot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot), personally. Especially since Putin & Russia aren’t Communist anymore, but Trump and his followers \*are \*definitely idiots that are useful to him.

I always liked “pinko,” with its homosexual implication. It’s two! Two! Two insults in one!

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/62 "2016-10-28T15:23:22Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Thanks for clearly demonstrating the most succinct example of willful ignorance I’ve seen so far today.
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> But it’s still early. :rolleyes:

Reverse Poe?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/63 "2016-10-28T15:26:46Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Are you mental?

There may be insufficient activity to tell. ☹

OP: When facts or points jab you in the ass, why don’t you just cancel your ride?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/64 "2016-10-28T15:38:42Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> OP: When facts or points jab you in the ass, why don’t you just cancel your ride?

Oh come on. The OP doesn’t have the mental capacity to comprehend information that deviates from the narrative. Since none of us live in that narrative and can address the misinformation it is built on in a manner that the OP can understand and believe, his inability to comprehend outside reality only means that he sees his failures to comprehend as our failures to convince him, which therefore means he is right.

The laughter is just his brain’s method of dealing with the stress of seeing reality as something other than what it is.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/65 "2016-10-28T15:40:22Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> All pure nonsense. The FBI wasn’t “told to stop”, they didn’t find anything despite being run by a Republican partisan. And the IRS isn’t investigating the Clinton Foundation because it has no reason to.
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> Everything you are saying is wrong.

Really? You do know, don’t you, that if the investigation had been allowed to continue and Hillary got taken down, Obama would have gone down in flames right beside her. And you still insist that there was no interference?

And I guess a $675,000 bribe doesn’t show as a blip on the radar, then. Well, perhaps it wasn’t really and truly a bribe bribe, but just a little bribe.

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> There is no “smoking gun” proof of an unethical quid pro quo arrangement in this Wall Street Journal report, but once again, voters are getting a distinct whiff of something that stinks.

> **[WSJ: Major Clinton Ally Funneled $675,000 to Wife of FBI Official Overseeing...](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/10/24/mcauliffe-fbi-story-n2236207)**
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> Appearances.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/66 "2016-10-28T15:43:25Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> [http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/10/24/mcauliffe-fbi-story-n2236207](http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/10/24/mcauliffe-fbi-story-n2236207)

Clownhall isn’t known as a font of accuracy.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/67 "2016-10-28T15:58:07Z")

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When you copy and paste the link to utter crap, it turns just as blue as any other. Therefore, it is a cite, and is due all the respect accorded to other cites.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/68 "2016-10-28T16:01:48Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Thanks for clearly demonstrating the most succinct example of willful ignorance I’ve seen so far today.
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> But it’s still early. :rolleyes:

You really are a special kind of dumb fuck, aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/69 "2016-10-28T16:42:23Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> DING\_DING\_DING!! We have a winner: CORRECT RESPONSE.
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> Followed by cignitive dissonance.

I don’t think the cognitive dissonance is on my part.

Choosing corrupt politicians over a guy that might blow up the world is a pretty rational decision.

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> The Clintons are anything but “run of the mill.” They epitomize the decline of American politics and decency in government, having built this reputation on a solid foundation of decades of white collar crime,

You got any proof?

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> enriching themselves at the expense of national security

You got any proof?

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> and undermining the whole concept of charitable organizations.

You got any proof?

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> The fact they are not in jail only underscore their success at pulling it off. So far.

For what crime?

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> It is so poetically appropriate the finger on the trigger of their own demise is none other than their daughter Chelsea. Can’t wait to hear her testify. It’ll be interesting to see whether or not she goes down right along with them.

Testify? What are you talking about?

Chelsea is a no worse than Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian. She is just another child or privilege that is leveraging that privilege to bigger and greater things.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/70 "2016-10-28T16:43:50Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Thanks for clearly demonstrating the most succinct example of willful ignorance I’ve seen so far today.
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> But it’s still early. :rolleyes:

Wasn’t it obvious to you that Shodan was being sarcastic? It was obvious to pretty much everyone else here.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/71 "2016-10-28T17:00:52Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Wasn’t it obvious to you that Shodan was being sarcastic? It was obvious to pretty much everyone else here.

Dammit, **Damuri** , I wanted to see how long it took before he got it.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/72 "2016-10-28T17:03:52Z")

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I realize the Pit is probably not the place for this, but can someone on the right (Shodan, UrbanArchetype, Damuri) explain to me in clear language without generalities exactly the scandal is regarding the Clinton’s foundation, and what evidence there is out there to support this claim. I get that the wikileaks show that she is horribly corrupt and awful, but I am honestly unclear about the specifics and would appreciate someone explaining it to me clearly and concisely.

Near as I can tell the issue is that Bill Clinton was given large amounts of money for speaking fees, and that many of these people also gave large amounts of money to the foundation. While the speaking fees are a little unseemly, they don’t seem to be much different than what many other politicians do after they leave office. And I don’t see why the connection between the speaking fees and the donations is scandalous. It seems reasonable that those who wanted Clinton to speak at some event might be the same sort that would want to donate to their foundation, or that in negotiating speaking arrangement Clinton would advocate supporting his charity. I would assume that the issue is some quid pro quo for the money given to Clinton for his speaking fees, but that would be true even without the foundation donations. So what exactly is the scandal?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/73 "2016-10-28T17:05:08Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Dammit, **Damuri** , I wanted to see how long it took before he got it.

You never hear the _whooosh_ that kills you.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/74 "2016-10-28T17:15:00Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Idiots.

> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Followed by cignitive dissonance.

> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Thanks for clearly demonstrating the most succinct example of willful ignorance

And just like Trump, **Uber** displays a textbook case of psychological projection.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/75 "2016-10-28T17:20:14Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How many posters on your list so far, **UA**?

I would suspect that when the fucking cowardly troll opens any of his threads, he sees a wall of blank posts. He’s such a special snowflake.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/76 "2016-10-28T18:02:00Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> And just like Trump, **Uber** displays a textbook case of psychological projection.

“No, you’re the psychological projection!..You’re the psychological projection!.. You are.”

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/77 "2016-10-28T18:13:01Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> “No, you’re the psychological projection!..You’re the psychological projection!.. You are.”

I’m no psychological projection!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/78 "2016-10-28T18:14:59Z")

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I’m a simulation, not a projection!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/79 "2016-10-28T18:16:35Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Really? You do know, don’t you, that if the investigation had been allowed to continue and Hillary got taken down, Obama would have gone down in flames right beside her. And you still insist that there was no interference?

No, because there was nothing of importance to find just as there wasn’t the other dozens of times the Republicans have pulled this nonsense.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/80 "2016-10-28T18:17:27Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’m a simulation, not a projection!

I’m sorry, I don’t do simulations. My training is as a psychological projectionist.

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