# Why Isn't the IRS Investigating the Clinton Foundation?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894 "2016-10-28T00:00:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/141 "2016-10-30T06:22:56Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> _shrug_ I just don’t see the insult there.

So maybe, just maybe, you can perceive what is happening?

Insults aside, of course. It is after all, “the PIT.”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/142 "2016-10-30T10:33:54Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Oh, **BigT** , you precious, precious moron.
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> Do you actually imagine that anyone here - _me_, least of all - gives two shits what you think?

I imagine you do - since you responded.

Of course, since I bothered to comment, I’m not gong to pretend your opinion is a matter of complete indifference to me - that’s a childish tactic.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/143 "2016-10-30T11:40:40Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> The FACT is that guy wrote that email. Stick that in your bullshit-spouting mouth and suck on it, dumbass.

A bit touchy at having your nonsense explained as nonsense, are you?

A promotions flack wrote one (or possibly more) e-mails touting himself as a major player in the politics of the Democratic Party connected to the Clintons. In that e-mail, he mentioned nothing that was actually illegal. That e-mail, (or a version of it that may have been modified by a third party after it was hacked–and which still did not note illegal activity), has now been reviewed in an Op-Ed piece to which you linked, demanding that the IRS investigate the Clinton Foundation for non-illegal activities that you have failed to describe or support with any evidence.  
Meanwhile, actual organizations who make it their business to analyze and critique charitable organizations continue to give the Clinton Foundation high marks for actually providing charitable services.

You started off as silly and now you are getting angry because you persist in publicly demonstrating that you have no idea what you are talking about. It must be a burden to be you.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/144 "2016-10-30T13:01:56Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> The idea that there’s any sort of significant distinction between “Democrat” and “Democratic” party - and that one is some sort of deliberate insult by wicked conservatives, would be a perfect straw parody of liberalisms tendency towards victimization and grievance farming, if it weren’t for the unfortunate fact that there’s actually a bunch of twits out there who really believe that. It’s the sort of dumbfuckery that makes me embarrassed to be a leftist, but this is generally the sort of low level idiocy one must endure as part of any broad coalition. But when someone like **Rick Kitchen** wanders in, with his smooth cerebellum unblemished by fold or wrinkle, and accuses me of not being a “real” Democrat because I dont care about his dipshit dogmatism, well, that rubs me the wrong way some.

Gotcha. I find myself fresh out of shits to give about the insult, one way or another. If folks say Democrat party, I’m not worried; if folks are worried, I’m not worried.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/145 "2016-10-30T13:20:42Z")

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I’m aware that one of them is considered an insult by certain hyper-sensitive dipshits but I’ll be damned if I can consistently remember which one it is. And I vote for Democrats over 90% of the time.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/146 "2016-10-30T13:41:04Z")

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Uber is missing the rather obvious. The Clinton foundation has almost certainly been investigated by the IRS multiple times. As I understand it, its routine that large companies and charities get audited every five years or so, or more often if the IRS sees something unusual. Since the foundation has been around 19 years it’s certainly been audited more than once. also the foundations tax filings are public.

So now we have Trump, still no released tax returns , by his own admission Trump is audited every single year, which is highly unusual and almost certainly evidence of shenanigans.

Uber: You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.

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**Author:** ![Psychopants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Psychopants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psychopants)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/147 "2016-10-30T13:57:07Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Yeah, I suppose alot of [people](http://stuff.is-a-geek.net/random/Forums/HillaryFoundation.png) might be re-thinking their response to CF donation solicitations.

seriously? that’s all you’ve got? wow. you sure changed my mind.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/148 "2016-10-30T14:42:44Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Uber is missing the rather obvious. The Clinton foundation has almost certainly been investigated by the IRS multiple times. As I understand it, its routine that large companies and charities get audited every five years or so, or more often if the IRS sees something unusual.

Nitpick: large 501(c)(3) orgs don’t routinely get audited by the IRS. They are required to go through a third-party auditing process (that they get to pay for themselves) every 5 years or so, and submit that paperwork to the IRS.

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/149 "2016-10-30T18:39:06Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> A promotions flack wrote one (or possibly more) e-mails touting himself.

Give it up T&D. Your sophomoric attempt to apply the hand-waving flavor in re-characterizing the scenario is at best, amusing.

You should join Mr. Eakers in savoring some of the factual flavor of this one of many not-so-big Clinton email surprise fat throbbing phallus’s presently being stuck up the country’s butt.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/150 "2016-10-30T18:49:01Z")

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Hey über, answer my post #146 please

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/151 "2016-10-30T19:49:00Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> …You should join Mr. Eakers in savoring some of the factual flavor of this one of many not-so-big Clinton email surprise fat throbbing phallus’s presently being stuck up the country’s butt.

The police called. Your Composition 101 teacher is out on the ledge, threatening to jump.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/152 "2016-10-30T20:17:55Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> I’m sorry to hear web forums validate your existence with positive feedback. I have something else to fulfill this function, called a life. You may wish to look into getting one of those for yourself.

And yet here you are. Go live your life and stop wasting our time.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/153 "2016-10-30T20:20:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The police called. Your Composition 101 teacher is out on the ledge, threatening to jump.

His mom was also his Comp 101 teacher?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/154 "2016-10-30T21:50:32Z")

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You know how home schooling is.

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/155 "2016-10-30T22:15:39Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Hey über, answer my post #146 please

I just re-read that post and still do not see any punctuation in the form of a question mark. I thought Munch’s response was more than adequate to refute your weak reasoning surrounding the IRS audit process. Your comments might fool a casual observer into believing someone other than Clinton-paid consultants are the foxes in that hen-house, but not me.

You do of course understand how the IRS operates as part the Treasury arm of the executive branch, losing literally hundreds of billions every year in un-collected taxes, right?

Let me know if you wish to go off on that tangent, but assuming they are doing anything resembling a “good job” in terms of not going after the Clintons is just ludicrous.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/156 "2016-10-30T22:20:53Z")

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If the IRS investigated and found nothing amiss, would you then claim that the investigation was rigged?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/157 "2016-10-30T22:24:47Z")

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This is what a Trump supporter looks like. This is absolutely typical of a Trump supporter. This is basically the archetype: shoddy conspiracy theories based on fucking _nothing_, with a complete aversion to evidence, critical thought, and everything else. They’re like young earth creationists, except more disgustingly offensive and more likely to cause real harm to people. This is disgusting, and whoever is responsible for this (I’d blame the OP, but it’s like blaming a heavily retarded man for breaking a mouse’s neck by accident - he’s clearly not bright enough to understand what he’s doing) should be fucking drawn and quartered.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/158 "2016-10-31T00:29:35Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Oh, **BigT** , you precious, precious moron.
> 
> Do you actually imagine that anyone here - _me_, least of all - gives two shits what you think?

Calling people stupid does not refute what they are saying.

Nothing I said was untrue. “[Democrat Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet))” is a widely known epithet, that actual people in office have decried. And you admitted you used it to see who it would piss off.

It is thus unsurprising that someone was pissed off. This is the Pit. If you try to piss someone off, they may attack you.

Attacking everyone who disagrees with will not change these facts. I could be the stupidest person in the world, but the facts will not change.

Especially when you attack people like **Trinopus** who hates Political Correctness.

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/159 "2016-10-31T00:31:52Z")

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Since it appears to be lost on some posters, let me just reiterate: The only “fact” in question here is the fact that I am pitting assholes like the majority of responders here, who seem to have an issue with the WSJ piece. There are a couple other less important, less debateable “facts” in the WSJ article itself. Tomndeb made good run at it. There were a few other more-or-less cogent responses.

Is that all you got? Random off-topic-inspired insults from Budget Player Cadoofus? :smack:

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/160 "2016-10-31T00:45:04Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Since it appears to be lost on some posters, let me just reiterate: The only “fact” in question here is the fact that I am pitting assholes like the majority of responders here, who seem to have an issue with the WSJ piece.

That may be what you intended, but it turns out mocking you offers a more immediate sense of satisfaction, because you are so very mockable.

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